 10/09/2003 02:19 PM
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mcmab Member

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Take a look at this, not updated recently but a fascinating view from "down under". http://www.redhill.net.au/iu.html' ">http://www.redhill.net.au/iu.html
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 10/10/2003 12:37 AM
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Java Elite

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Wow, great resource.
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 10/10/2003 01:02 AM
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palmboy5 Overclocker

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and all this shows the future of these silicon based CPUs... they are getting hotter and hotter. soon water cooling will be standard and we will all go nitrogen!
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 10/10/2003 03:00 AM
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Greyhound Senior Member

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very nice! and lots of pics, too Thanx for the link
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 10/14/2003 06:08 AM
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action man Moderator

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excellent resource.. there is one quote there that im not entirely happy with though.. they claim that by dfinition a pc uses a x86cpu. i thought a pc was just a Personal computer therfore an apple mac IS a pc but they claim it isnt... just strikes me as odd thats all.. can anyone clear this up?
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 10/14/2003 06:22 AM
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Greyhound Senior Member

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i think by definition, a PC is a Personal Computer that is derived from IBM's original 'IBM PC'. So everything that uses a 8088-CPU and its successors(=today's x86-chips) could be called a 'PC'
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 10/14/2003 10:07 AM
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action man Moderator

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if that is true then surely "pc" is as much of a trademark as "ibm" if not then a "pc" is defined by its use. so an amstrad an applemac a powerpc are all "pc's". someone slap me if my logic is flawed or if im missing something obvious
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 10/14/2003 10:19 AM
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brian_brian Senior Member

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mcmab kun ... arigato ne !
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 10/14/2003 10:46 AM
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infiltrator Linux Ninja

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QUOTE (Greyhound @ Oct 14 2003, 02:22 AM) i think by definition, a PC is a Personal Computer that is derived from IBM's original 'IBM PC'. So everything that uses a 8088-CPU and its successors(=today's x86-chips) could be called a 'PC' PC is exactly what it says it is - a Personal Computer. This can be any personal computer - be is IBM, Apple or even one with non IBM archetecture. ZX Spectrum, Commodore 64, Apple, are just types of PC's, even though they were not really around when the PC catchphrase came out.
Brian is speaking some strange language... /me looks confuzzored
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 10/14/2003 11:02 AM
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brian_brian Senior Member

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these is japanese language ... I translate 4 u infiltrator
mcmab ... thanks
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 10/14/2003 11:13 AM
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infiltrator Linux Ninja

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QUOTE (brian_brian @ Oct 14 2003, 07:02 AM) these is japanese language ... I translate 4 u infiltrator
mcmab ... thanks lol, yeah - still want to learn russian and japanese
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 10/14/2003 12:51 PM
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Dave Graham Senior Member

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it's not a bad site...for more technical stuff, sandpile.org is the way to go. also, it doesn't look like RedHill has been updated in quite some time. cheers, dave
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 10/19/2003 10:16 PM
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ksama Member

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quote from that site:
'it was AMD that first brought competition to the CPU industry, and AMD that are now the only remaining barrier against monopoly.'
wooo..........pressure on AMD.
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