http://forums.amd.com/forum/index.cfm?forumid=1 FuseTalk Hosting Executive Plan http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=122509 2009-11-22T05:33:44 -05.00 go_for 1 http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=122457 2009-11-21T06:37:24 -05.00 martyn7 5 I've MSI K9A2GM V3 (AM2+) motherboard and I upgraded my processor in hope of gaining improved performance in 3D gaming.

Yet when I compare system performance with this new CPU to my previous one, I find no improvement whatsoever.

For example, in Need For Speed Shift, I've got 18FPS with everything maxed out when I am in a column of cars -- just same with X2 7850 like with X4 925.

In Modern Warfare 2 in Estate map, I've barely 24 FPS with X4 925 (everything maxed out; I even don't remember with X2 7850 going it that low).

I simply changed BOX version of X2 7850 with BOX version of X4 925. My Windows XP started normally, so I didn't reinstall operating system.

Could be problem in my chip set (motherboard)? MSI says that K9A2GM V3 supports socket AM3 processors only up to 65 TDP (yet on www.cpu-upgrade.com, I've found it in the list of supported processors). But when on boot motherboard identifies CPU correctly and in Windows XP I see all the cores running at 2.8 GHz with 1.325 V (AMD Power Monitor; Cool and Quiet disabled in BIOS), could there be a problem?

What can "bottleneck" my system? Given that I've Radeon HD 4890 (Sapphire Vapor-X) and 4 GB RAM (Patriot), could old chip set "bottleneck" the system? Or should I reinstall my Windows XP SP3?

Could somebody give me comparison of performance? Has anyone with quad core processor 18 FPS in NFS Shift and barely 24 FPS in some maps of Modern Warfare 2?

Thanks for the input,

Martin]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=122390 2009-11-20T06:50:21 -05.00 TLH 8
I also tested my Corsair Dominator @ 1066 just before I went to Win 7 and it was throwing a few errors in Memtest and one of the cooling fans in the airflow has given me problems also, squeeked badly for a couple of weeks and is now stiff compared to the other 2 fans on it. Will rma it but need new stuff first. Running ok @ 800.

So recommendations for either a good 1Tb external or internal drive please. It's a storage drive and I don't use the portable nature of an external enough for it to be a necessity to go for an external really, just needs to be solid and reliable.

Also is there any problem with Geil Black Dragon ram as it's the only stuff I've found at a decent price right now. When I bought my Dominator it was £69 for 4gb, right now it's running at around £125. Taking the Geil means dropping to pc6400 but I'd be going to 8gb rather than 4gb @ pc8500 and it would fit under the fan on my core contact freezer.

Your thoughts please. Cheers.]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=122388 2009-11-20T06:14:53 -05.00 happyware 4 http://www.newegg.com/Product/...?Item=N82E16813128399
This chipset has been extremely solid and seems to be quite good at supporting 1600 DDR3 memory.

CPU:
Phenom II X2 550
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...?Item=N82E16819103680
For $100 it gives you quite a bang for your buck. Unlocked means easier overclock for a beginner like yourself.

Memory:
G-Skill 1.5v 9-9-9-24
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...?Item=N82E16820231193

Hard Drive:
Samsung 500GB/Platter F3 Series - important for speed/heat/power usage
500GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...?Item=N82E16822152181
1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...?Item=N82E16822152185

Video:
ATI 4770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...?Item=N82E16814125298

Case:
in-win case with 300 watt dual rail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...?Item=N82E16811108191


Granted, there isn't a lot of room left on the rails but the power supply is great quality, solid consistent voltage. About the only thing that seems to vary much is the efficiency. At normal load movie watching/gaming etc The power supplies tend to be 75-85% efficient. In-Win's website shows they have two 300Watt PS's one 80% rated the other not, the specs the same. My guess is that they simply test them out the door and anything better than 80 gets the higher sticker price and 80 logo.

The board is a no brainer. Gigabyte is second to none in my book. I know many here will poopoo uATX at all, but it's a good compromise for those who want a powerful machine without feeling like they have a full server in their room.

The Phenom II 550 runs a 80watt TDP, 3.1Ghz and overclocks like crazy. Quad Core Athlon 602 is about the same price but is only 2.6Ghz and suffers at gaming.

For memory, I choose G-Skill, this model in particular because it's rated at 1.5volts and runs far cooler than other OCZ and corsair that I've tried early on.

The hard drive is again a no brainer. You want the latest 500GB/Platter technology for sure. Faster speeds, better EE. Samsung does it right. Seagate is my second choice. Avoid WD in my view. With even just a single drive. I can peg my 1000Base-T network at home (yes 110MB/sec) sustained for 160GB worth of video between computers.

The ATI 4770 is the mid range card based on the new more EE process. It's sort of the new age 4830 in terms of low cost good performance but consuming a full 15 watts less idle and 30 watts less on full load.

The case I choose is really about the size and features. Just barely enough room to get some PCI-E cards in there. The cooling design on the case is impressive and it's small size is used to it's advantage. The Video card for example acts as a wall between video card heat and the rest of the system. It's also got a isolated CPU compartment to intake cool heat and isolate it around the CPU. It's also got tool less design, smooth edges etc. Very easy to work with. The power supply is also down by the PCI-E slots.

I wrote this quick so excuse the errors. I can't sleep tonight and needed something to do. Frankly I can't find a better system to build or recommend for people.

It runs well under 100watt idle and 170 or so at load without overclocking using my kill-a-watt. It also stays crazy cold.

If you want Quad Core without uping your power supply use the 905e (2.5Ghz) or this guy:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...?Item=N82E16819103656

while the board supports 125 and 140 and this config has worked in a test, I wouldn't recommend pushing the PS that hard.]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=122373 2009-11-19T23:38:43 -05.00 trira 2 http://www.onhop.ca/catalog/product/10474674

I'm just wondering if the processor is compatible with my motherboard. I have an Asus M2NPV-VM with a 350W Power Supply. The Asus website says it's compatible,but what manufacturers' claims and actual product have this annoying tendency of having slight differences. So yeah, wondering if my motherboard can support a processor that needs 125W supply. (I'd go for the 89W version, but I can't find it).]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=122351 2009-11-19T17:19:23 -05.00 mattu 5
I want to build a machine to run Linux64 OS (openSuSE 11.2) as a host OS to do all kinds of development work (one end it will be heavy c++ sw builds/tests, linux kernel , compiler builds and at other end it will be web design with mysql, java, php and adobe softwares like Flex).
I also want to install Win7 on this box (not a dual boot but in a Virtual environment in let's say VMware or Xen) to do other stuff which I can not do on linux like watching netflix, Nova shows, and play games (though I'm not hardcore gamer) etc.
I may also like to install and run another OS (dev version) like ubuntu for testing. Guest OSes won't be running all the time.

So, what kind of hardware configuration you guys suggests?
I've a old box with following reusable components ...

500 GB WD internal drive
Acer 22'' wide screen monitor
A Midsize ATX case
650W PSU
Athlon X2 4400+ (I really want to upgrade to Phenom II X4. but which one?)

Would like to upgrade to DDR3 as well.

I really appreciate your feedback.

Thanks]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=122305 2009-11-19T03:24:53 -05.00 artimis08 6 I am new to the forums so hello to everyone who happens to take a glance at my thread. I have been using AMD since I built my first computer and I have loved it! My current system is out-of-date though and I plan on upgrading. Let me know what you guys think, everyone's input is greatly appreciated. If you notice any problems let me know and kindly a suggest a solution please. I am looking for a good cooling system for this set-up. Here it is!

1. ASUS Crosshair III Formula AM3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard
(after doing my homework I know I have to update the BIOS to get the CPU to work with this board.)
2. AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 140W Quad-Core Processor Model
3. Kingston HyperX 4GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1800 (PC3 14400) Desktop Memory
4. HIS H489FN1GH Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
5. HT | OMEGA STRIKER 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card

Those parts are my upgrade parts. I currently have a Corsair 650W PSU and LG DVD/CD 22x drives I plan on keeping as well. My HDD is a 300GB WD that has lasted me very well through a few formats. I know I need to get a new HDD soon as this one is about 6 yrs old but that's not my main concern.

With this system I would like to run heavy graphics games as well and run a virtual PC ( not necessarily at the same time), my current CPU doesn't support virtualization. I plan on OCing to 3.7-4 GHZ as well, God willing. Thanks again for all your info!

-Artie Rivera]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=122192 2009-11-17T14:39:09 -05.00 Stu468 7 Here is my public wish list from Newegg. I'm hoping that you would give it a look and tell me if you think my RAM/CPU/MB pics will play nice together. The ram is not on the approved list supplied by Asus. I assume that isn't a problem.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishL...shListNumber=11103031

What issues if any can I expect with my RAM choice? Will I only be running at 800?

What will I need to adjust in the Bios for mem settings?

Thanks for your input on this!

Stuart]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=122120 2009-11-16T14:32:54 -05.00 deadman1984 7
2.20ghz intel core 2 duo
2gb of ddr2
7800 gtx
asus p5k-e wifi motherboard

the new amd system is for gaming]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=122079 2009-11-15T12:38:18 -05.00 mbjbdc 18 i have used corsair and ultra in the past
anyone used kingwin or sunbeam power supplys?
was thinking about getting a kingwin laser 750
http://www.tigerdirect.com/app...dpNo=5222601&CatId=106]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=122061 2009-11-15T03:29:15 -05.00 matt231979 9
I have found a power supply at a decent cost and good reviews. But not sure if it supports CrossFire. It supports SLI though. And the spec is listed as SLI/CrossFire then across from that it only list SLI.

Ultra X3 ULT40311 1000-Watt Power Supply - ATX, SATA-Ready, PCI-E Ready, Energy Efficient, Modular, Lifetime Warranty

http://www.tigerdirect.com/app...No=4267989&CatId=2535

That is the power supply in question and where it can be found.

Thanks again for the help.]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=122056 2009-11-14T22:24:46 -05.00 BuckShot3280 6 http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=122022 2009-11-14T03:09:08 -05.00 jmaverick101 6
Im using the 955be i have in my comp for her cpu. other than that I plan on using the following components.

Antec 300- 69.95
MSI 790GX- 119.99
Antec Earthwatts 650 80+ certified- 79.99
G.Skill Ripjaws 4GB(2X2)ddr3 1600- 105.99
Western Digital Blue 500Gb-55.99
LG DVD Burner-28.99

Total- 460.90


Any suggestions on what parts I can sub to cut back on. I like the msi, I have the 790fx which works great, and the gx with its onboard video is a great money saver. Price range-as cheap as possible.]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121944 2009-11-12T15:54:08 -05.00 BBjam 2 H8DA6+, starting with only one radeon GPU and opteron quad-core, and eventualy upgrading to two GPUs in crossfire and two 6-core opterons.
The other components will eventually be something like 4 hard drives, 1 DVD burner, 16 Gigs of ram, wireless N card.
The main question right now is how much power do I need. The supermicro people still haven't gotten back to me about whether a normal ATX power supply will fit, so if you know please tell.
Supermicro sells a system based on a similar motherboard, which clams support for 4 giant GPUs and two opterons, with a 1400 watt power supply, so I know I need less than that.(only two GPUs fro me )

If anyone knows I would also like to know: if there are any wireless N cards with Linux support(even unofficial), and where one finds socket F heat sinks.

EDIT: oops, I just realized there is a workstation section, and this belongs there.]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121858 2009-11-11T08:32:04 -05.00 Thilo 1
is there such thing as a list or so of CPUs which support IOMMU?
The important thing is the ability of HVM PCI pass-through, not only "regular" Virtualization, as described here.

Thanks,
Thilo]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121831 2009-11-10T18:25:52 -05.00 okno 2
I would like to know if i can use it even in desktop board, that does not support CPU voltage around 1V.

I got for free MSI K8N Neo Platinum, but from forums i know, that you can change CPU voltage from 1.5 to highet value, but mobile sempron supports 0,95-1,4V
So can i damage the cpu if i will put it into this board?

Thank you for reply.]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121824 2009-11-10T15:58:32 -05.00 ljstreet 4
The model number of CPU is ADA3200DAA48W

Thanks!]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121758 2009-11-08T22:00:10 -05.00 TS12000 17 http://secure.newegg.com/WishL...shListNumber=12334612
I would appreciate it.
The purpose of this system is to be able to play new games, but also as a media center and school computer (all around I guess)

Thanks in advance guys]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121746 2009-11-08T16:53:02 -05.00 TigerEmerald 13
I have two fairly old computers, of which I cannot remember the specs exactly
1. Family Computer
CPU: Athlon 3800+
Motherboard: Elitegroup K8T something (has both AGP and PCI-E slots)
RAM: 2gb DDR 400 speed
GPU: 7600GT (currently)
PSU: RAIDMAX 730 watt modular

2. Game Computer
CPU: Athlon 4400+
Motherboard: nForce 570 Ultra
RAM: 2gb corsair 800 speed
GPU: Radeon 4650 (currently)
PSU: RAIDMAX 530 watt modular

My issue is that the videocards I put into these machines seemly break and suffer (what I think is) major heating/cooling problems.

The computers have the same issues and they are:
1. The videocards start to pixilate and crash whenever doing something graphical such as games or even HD videos - then a VPU recovery prompt occurs.
2. Using the CCC to put the cards at their lowest core and memory speed as well as pushing the fan to max speed does seem to let the cards function, at least for a little bit while playing games.
3. ATItool seemly suggests that my 4850 (the only card I tested it on) says the core speed is at negative 2 million.

My 4870 from my main computer worked fine in these machines to the best that I could see of, but no videocards from these two broken computers worked in my main computer (at least not for long). So far the cards that i have tested and seemly lost are a 4850, 4650, 7600GT, and 1900XT.

What could possibly be the issue? It seemly spread from the Family Computer to the Game Computer, the only real commonality between the two is that they used the same videocards. Formatting and intense virus scanning (with avast) did nothing to absolve the issue.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Anyway, I'm considering getting some replacement parts on black friday for the machines, but I'm not sure what would have great price/performance and would last a long time.

I'm personally hoping to spend less than $300-400 on each machine. I'm thinking of getting an Athlon x2 or x3 CPU, 785G motherboard, DDR3 ram and 4770s.]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121691 2009-11-07T17:18:08 -05.00 SH 16 The problem is, according to its specs, it requires a minimum of 0.5A on the +12v3 (PCIe Connectors only) as well as on the +12v1 (CPU) and +12v2 (peripherals).
I've got a GeForce 8600GT WITHOUT any PCIe connector requirement, and so I don't know if the PSU will work without any load on the +12v3 line.
I'll later buy an ATI 5770, but for know I just need the PSU since mine is dying...
Does it require the PCIe connector to be connected to work properly?]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121674 2009-11-07T10:59:12 -05.00 Brand 3
So im building a new computer from scratch.
As the title already tells you, I have no freaking idea which PSU, RAM and CPU cooler to choose.

By the way I don't want to do CFX or OC. The CPU cooler shouldn't be too big as I'd like to upgrade my memory with another 2x2GB memory some day and there has to be enough space for four memory sticks.

I already own:

- 250GB Samsung HD, 7200rpm, 2504c
- DVDCD/RW drive

Here's a list of my current set-up I'm planning to buy:

- CPU: Phenom II 965 (140TDP, maybe 125TDP if it's available in my town)
- GPU: HIS HD 5850
- Mainboard: Gigabyte MA790XT-UD4P

- RAM: No idea yet. Should cost around $120 and be 2 x 2GB, atleast 1333MHZ and of course be compatible with my set-up
- PSU: No idea yet. Should cost around $100
- CPU Cooler: No idea yet, too. Should cost between $30-50


On a side note: I did a power supply calculation here on http://www.be-quiet.net/calculator.php and it told me that I need a 500W PSU. Then later on I did another power supply calculation on a another site and it told me that I need a 600W PSU.


Thanks in advance for your help!]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121668 2009-11-07T06:51:08 -05.00 mmetechsupport 2
Which is bettr VGAcard for my athon x2 II 250 with mobo emax mcp61p
sapphire hd3650 512 128 bit or saphire hd4350 512 128 bit, or palit 9500gt 512 128bit bit, Im compfused I dont know what is better. somebody can help me on this mostly i used my pc for my online game middle end game.

thanks]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121645 2009-11-06T16:09:30 -05.00 Jester70403 5
-------------------OVERVIEW--------------------

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Within a week
BUDGET RANGE: $1,300 or less
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming (First Person Shooters, Strategy RTSs and MMO RPGs are all possibilities), Surfing the Web, some casual Photoshop use, and iTunes
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Case, HDD, DVD Drive, Monitor, Mouse, Keyboard, and Speakers
PREFERRED WEBSITES FOR PARTS: www.newegg.com or www.zipzoomfly.com (though I'm open to any reputable company)
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA
PARTS PREFERENCES: AMD Phenom II x4 965 BE
OVERCLOCKING: No plans to overclock.
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Not currently
MONITOR RESOLUTION: I am currently using a 24" Samsung Touch of Color at 1920x1200 resolution.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: When pointing out poor choices, it would be greatly appreciated if you left an explanation of why a different part trumps the previous selection as my knowledge is a bit behind the times as pointed out previously.

--------------------PARTS--------------------

CPU:
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 140W Quad-Core Processor - Retail

MOTHERBOARD:
ASUS M4A79T Deluxe AM3 DDR3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

I was looking at the Asus Motherboard listed above, but I'm open to any board that can give me at least 6gb of RAM usage

GPU:
XFX - ATI Radeon HD 5850 1GB DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 Graphics Card

RAM:
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMV4GX3M2A1333C9 - Retail

I'm just looking for 6GB or 8GB of any RAM that is compatible with the M4A79T Deluxe listed above or any other recommended motherboard. (If it is even possible. With 4 DIMM slots and dual-channel memory, can 8 or 6 GB be achieved and stable for a reasonable amount of money?)

PSU:
CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

--------------------ALREADY OWNED PARTS THAT ARE RELEVANT--------------------

HDD:
Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000HLFS 300GB 10000 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

CASE:
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower

OS:
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM


All input is welcome. Thank you in advance.

KB]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121607 2009-11-05T17:22:50 -05.00 Cruzin08 2 http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121550 2009-11-04T17:02:13 -05.00 javagrendel 23
I'm building a new system around a Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition, ASUS M4A78T-E mobo, with a GeForce GTX 260 card. I decided to start out with 8 GB RAM (Kingston or Corsair DDR3 1600). Haven't picked out HDD and DVD-RW yet, not too particular about those at the moment. I play WoW, so this system will be mainly for doing that, plus occasionally a little light development (I'm a java UI programmer).

My question is regarding the case and PSU. I was looking at mid-towers, and a 650W power supply. Would that be sufficient for what the system I'm planning? I know nothing about PSUs, so any recommendations in the mid-price range would be awesome. I'm not a flash guy, so I don't care about looks - I'm looking for a spacious, case, easy of installation and performance-per-dollar.

Thanks in advance,

Javagrendel

PS - I don't have any major plans to OC, though I read that the Asus board will allow me to overclock without changing any voltages. I may choose to try it, but not in the short run. Should I get some additional cooling fans etc in case I want to try overclocking?]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121513 2009-11-04T00:43:01 -05.00 doodlehed 11
So i built my rig a few...maybe more years ago. Here's what it entails:

AMD athlon 64 3400
k8n neo platinum mobo - has to be replaced to get a new gpu
couple gigs of poo memory - dont really care if it doesnt error
6800 gt gpu - doesnt do the trick anymore
450-500 watt psu - surely going to need replaced to power a new gpu

So I looked up on pricewatch and what not and priced stuff but I'm not sure which componants are the best bang for buck right now. My current computer was pretty bang for buck at the time.

I need something that's going to run everything out there to date and beyond a little. I need CPU,mobo,gpu, psu and ram. I have no clue which GPU's are bang for buck. The numbers have changed. I see like "nvidia 350 ultra" now. WHERE DID THE OTHER DIGIT GO! IM SCARED!

So can someone with like 5 mins to spare bring me up to date.

CPU- AMD Obviously - doesn't have to be quad core or anything.
GPU- Prefer Nvidia products. Never tried an ati card. stick with what i know.
ram- i dont care. cheap and doesnt error
psu- cheapest possible without zapping my new rig.

If possible maybe I can go to a site with a package and save some money? I probably wont have all of the money at once so I may have to piece it together.

If you got this far thanks for reading my gibberish post.]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121501 2009-11-03T18:29:05 -05.00 suraloka 14 $195.99 Combo Deal: $185.99

ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AMD 790X AM3 Phenom II Socket AM3 5200 MT/s PC3-14400 (DDR3-1800) ATX Motherboard Retail - $106 after mail in rebate

WESTERN DIGITAL Caviar® Green WD10EADS 1TB SATA II 7200 RPM 32MB Buffer Hard Drive Bulk -- $85

OCZ OCZ600MXSP 600W SLI/CrossFire Active Power Supply Retail $48 After $30 MIR

CASE: COOLER MASTER HAF 922 - $82

SAMSUNG SH-S223C 22X SATA DVD Burner Black Drive Bulk $26

XFX HD-575X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5750 1GB GDDR5 PCI Express x16 (2.0v) Video Card Retail - $142

ASUS XONAR D1 PCI Sound Card Retail - $62

I need to find $GbX2 PC3-14400 (DDR3-1800) DDR3 Memory - which I dont see anywhere, please guide, I need to build this system within $1000 please help


If I am missing any components, please let me know. I am building this for trading stocks using multiple monitors and 3-4 application running concurrently.

$737 -Price of memory not included.

Thanks in Advance]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121486 2009-11-03T12:26:36 -05.00 GuruSteve 4
xxxxx
xxxx

The USB cables from the front of my case are only four-pin. Can I just stick them into the one row? The cable from the back of my case (an installed USB header) DOES have the arrangement as seen above, so no problem there.]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121485 2009-11-03T12:20:21 -05.00 GuruSteve 2
I just took my new SATA DVD Rewriter out of the box and noticed that there was no provision for an audio cable...just hookups for the SATA cable and the power cable. How is audio delivered from the new SATA drives to the motherboard to the speakers?]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121477 2009-11-03T09:13:48 -05.00 X-tremedreamer 15
Phenom X4 9850
ASUS M3A32-MVP DELUXE/WIFI-AP Motherboard (790FX NB 600SB)
4 GB DDR2 1066 Crucial Ballistix Tracers (4x1GB Matched Set)
2 512MB 3870 Toxics (Sapphire)
750W Rosewell Power-supply
Thermaltake Xasier 6 Case
and an assortment of fans, HDDs ODD, to complete the build.

I still wanted more GPU power so after saving a bit more money I got two more 3970s, This time I got the 1GB version Toxics from Sapphire.

I spent alot of time struggling to over clock the 9850, and 3.0 seemed to be its max on an air cooler (Nirvana 120). I didn't want to break into the liquid cooling yet, and to this day I still haven't. So as AMD released faster CPUs I followed with each one in turn.

When WD released the 10,000 RPM VelociRaptor I had to have a pair of them in RAID 0 ........ so the motherboard got an upgrade to the ASUS M3A79-T Deluxe, (790FX NB 750 SB) The CPU was the 9950 and I put a Thermaltake Tough Power 1200W Power-supply in at the same time.

I ran this for a while until the release of the Phenom II 940. This was a direct drop and what a difference in performance that made. I was blown away with its benchmarks, and I was able to overclock this one to 3.7 stable, but it was way to hot with the current CPU cooler, so I went to the Ultra Chill TEC.

This didn't go as well as I had hoped, it did drop the CPU temps a lot, but it wasn't long before the TEC burned up trying to keep the Phenom II cool, so I have to go back down to stock clocks.

Finally I made the last upgrade that truly pushes the limits on the Spider platform, and had brought up the question, is it even a Spider anymore?

I left the AM2+ and moved to AM3 and DDR3 memory, put aside the Phenom II 940 and went to the 965. I also moved from the ASUS motherboard, and went with an MSI designed board, because the PCIE slots were better spaced (790FX-GD70 790FX NB 750 SB)

So the final specs to date:

AMD Phenom II x4 965,
8 Gigabytes, DDR3 16000 G.Skill Memory,
4x Sapphire Toxic HD3870,
MSI 790FX-GD70 Motherboard,
ProlimaTech Megahalems CPU cooler sporting one Scythe Slipstream 120mm fan and one (Scythe) 140 mm (1900 RPM) fan (110 CFM),
2x WD VelociRaptor 300GB drives (Operating Systems)
2x Seagate Barracuda 1TB drives (storage)
1x Hitachi Deskstar 1TB Drive (storage)
2x DVD combo drives
1500W SilverStone power supply
4x 140mm Scythe (1900 RPM) case fans (110 CFM)
1x 140mm Areo cool case fans (38 CFM)
1x 120mm Thermaltake case fans (who knows)
2x Logisys Liquid Neon lights.

So I put the question to the AMD forums:
Has the "Black Widow" Morphed into a Dragon?

What do you think? and at what stage in her development did she cross that line?

Here are a few pictures for your viewing pleasure,

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Here is a few results of benchmarks of the final build

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Thanks and if you have any other questions I would love to answer them.

I Edited the Second link, Sorry I just realize I has two of the same.]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121434 2009-11-02T12:40:13 -05.00 RequiemLion 2
MOBO:
http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=KC8yHOfBMCe9SlrP
Processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...?Item=N82E16819103273
RAM:
8gb of http://www.newegg.com/Product/...?Item=N82E16820145214
Video:
Radeontm HD 4890
OS:
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit.
Case:
Antec 900
Power:
850 watt PSU

Usage:
I am a gamer and webmaster, and I do some photo editing/Artwork.
Main use is gonna be for gaming though.

Don't really have a price range but total build will be less than $2000.
Open to all ideas.]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121411 2009-11-01T22:46:20 -05.00 xodus99 6
I'm planning on building a computer with the Phenom II x2 550 BE processor. I will be using this majorly for Gaming and for work.
I'm on a budget and I was looking for advice on good motherboards.

Specs:

AMD Phenom II x2 550 BE
Need advice on a motherboard which supports DDR III, Crossfire (and easy on the pocket ) - Was considering motherboards with a 790G, GX, 790FX chipsets
ATI 4890 1GB (Just 1 card at this moment)
WD 500 GB SATA II 16MB 7200rpm


Thanks a lot! ]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121394 2009-11-01T18:45:20 -05.00 Erasmus 16
I want to keep the total price around $500 and need a motherboard, processor, ram, PSU, and maybe a new case and maybe a new hard drive.

Here's what I'm thinking of so far:
Mobo: MSI GF615M-P33 AM3 - "><br ">http://.....ct/...16813130243


CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0ghz - "><br ">http://.....ct/...16819103675


RAM: G.Skill 4gb (2x2gb) DDR3 1333 - "><br ">http://.....ct/...16820231180


PSU: Antec Earthwatts 500W - <br ">">http://www...Pro...N82E16817371007

HDD: Western Digital 640gb - <br ">">http://www...Pro...N82E16822136218


I'm not really sure about that motherboard, I just picked a cheap good rated AM3 board. The total price is about $440. I wouldn't mind a new case but it has to be able to fit my HD 5770, and I don't need anything fancy just a plain case would be fine. I looked on newegg but didn't see any good ones that weren't really expensive.

EDIT: I'm not sure if I really need to go with a processor that good. Is quad core THAT much of an improvement? The Phenom II X2 550 is 3.1ghz and $60 cheaper so maybe that would be a smarter choice.]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121375 2009-11-01T13:19:20 -05.00 GuruSteve 3
The board has five SATA connectors, 0-4. In the BIOS, the OnChip IDE Channel and OnChip SATA Controller are both enabled by default.

1. Should I disable the OnChip IDE Channel or just leave it enabled? I will not be using a IDE floppy (I don't think)...probably a USB floppy if I really need one.

2. Under OnChip SATA Type (0-3 connectors), my choices are Native IDE, Raid, AHCI. Well, I'm not using RAID since I will have only the one SATA hard drive. What about the other two choices? Which one should I choose, assuming that I will be using the above hard drive and DVD Rewriter?

3. Does it make any difference what SATA connectors I use for the hard drive and DVD Rewriter?

4. Finally, I will be installing Windows 7. Do I really need to make a SATA RAID/AHCI driver diskette to install the OS? I understand that Win7 has all the drivers I need.

Sorry for all the questions, but this is the first time with SATA devices.]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121347 2009-11-01T00:18:49 -05.00 Shamokes 29
Heres what I am thinking:

I want to buy the AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz from Newegg for $175.99.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...?Item=N82E16819103674

I do game a a lot but I also run office software and use Adobe Illustrator and Dreamweaver. I also watch movies and have been known to encode an AVI or two. So I believe that this CPU should do it all for me without too much effort. Am I wrong?

I have a newer, about 2 years old, PSU from Thermaltake that I bought to replace a cheapo that went bad on me and taking 2 sticks of OCZ ram and one Athlon X64 CPU with it. It's a Purepower 600w with 2 12+ rails with 18 amps to each rail.
It's no longer available at Newegg but you can still look at the specs here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...?Item=N82E16817153042

Will that be enough for this chip and a nice Graphics card like the 9800 GT? How about if I use two of these cards in SLI? I have looked at one thats been posted here, a 750 watt unit but the price seems a bit high at about $150.

On graphics I'm thinking about this one: EVGA 01G-P3-N981-TR GeForce 9800 GT 1GB DDR3 PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card $133.51 at Amazon but the 512 meg card is $32 cheaper, will that extra 512 meg of DDR 3 make that much difference?

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-01G...qid=1257045629&sr=8-2

I may buy a second card later and SLI them although I have never used SLI before and I'm not sure it will be worth it price verses performance wise.

I'm still looking for a descent case and have looked at several but again, price is a factor. I know I need one with good cooling and I like the bigger fans in the back top and front like the Thermaltake Element S:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...?Item=N82E16811133077

One on Ebay for $50 plus $20 shipping new in box. Cases have been surprisingly hard to find in my price range of $50 to $75.

I'm up in the air about memory, still haven't really done a lot of research for it yet but I have been using some GSkill 1 gig sticks in my present machine and they have performed well with the 2 512 meg OCZ sticks. I am thinking of 2 4 gig sticks of descent ram to start and adding two more 4 gig sticks later on for a total of 16 gigs. It seems that modern mother boards come standard with 4 memory slots and can handle a total of 16 gigs of ram. I do a lot of work in virtual machines with VMWare Workstation so the more ram the better. I have been known to have a VM running while playing a game and alt tabbing between the two. The quad core CPU should help here as well I'd think. Your thoughts?

Thanks to any and all who reply. I really need advice here as I really can't afford to make a 500 plus dollar mistake. I will probably buy a motherboard and the CPU first together and then the other parts as I can afford them. Maybe I should wait until black Friday after Thanksgiving and see what kind of deals I can find then. Anyway, I await your thoughts.
]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121196 2009-10-29T13:33:21 -05.00 denverkris 4
any help much appreciated.]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121156 2009-10-28T20:20:23 -05.00 deegee 3
I've been looking to upgrade one of my older rigs for a while now as it's getting a little dated! Anyways I am running an Asrock AM2NF6G-VSTA mobo (Chipset:MCP61 or Nvidia 6100v) with an AMD Windsor proc. I am hoping to upgrade to a Phenom II X4 955 Socket AM3 as it's a fairly priced and solid processor. I know that AM3 procs are compatible with many AM2 socket mobo's however when I contacted AsRock's support team they told me that AM3 processors wouldn't work in this particular motherboard. This was quite contrary to what I have been reading around the net. Ex.

http://forums.techarena.in/web-news-trends/1087957.htm

This link shows that my particular motherboard would support a AM3 processor. I am getting a lot of mixed signals from my various sources! :S

Could someone please shed a little light on the predicament I am in? I don't want to have to buy a new motherboard if it is not absolutely necessary as this is just a temporary upgrade before I invest in amore permanent system down the road. Does anyone know if it is tried tested and true that I can in fact run this AM3 processor on my AsRock Motherboard? Thanks in advance!]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121110 2009-10-27T21:27:06 -05.00 Spryguy87 4
thanks in advance.]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121078 2009-10-27T12:33:03 -05.00 skythedog 5 the build is mainly for use of cubase 5 also hd content but not much gaming ,i was wonderin what mobo to go for and whether ddr3 is really that much better than ddr2.
all in my budget is £450-500 for everything any input would b appreciated ty]]> http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=14&threadid=121044 2009-10-26T23:15:34 -05.00 GuruSteve 2