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Topic Title: Catalyst 8.11 - HD4850 Crossfire - Vista x64 - BSOD at Logon - Fix Topic Summary: Fix for BSOD at Vista x64 login using 8.11 drivers Created On: 12/08/2008 07:29 PM Status: Post and Reply |
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Hi all, 1st post. Ive seen the others regarding atikmdag.sys....but the posts were diluted and this is a specific fix to a specific problem. The scenario is thus:
Many people have offered many fixes. Some hack the crossfire registry keys. some pull the crossfire bridge from the cards. Some people are lucky enough for the drivers to install....but although the system states they are running in crossfire....if you benchmark you'll find you are only getting single card performance....and you'll probably crash running 3dmark06 or similar. This fix is aimed primarily at people with HD4850 cards in crossfire who cant use 8.11 drivers without constant blue screens or hacking the system to disable crossfire. Before giving the resolution I'd like to show my system...
No doubt ATI will tell me the failure is overclocking, ram, raid, vista, in fact anything other then a problem caused by ATI. When I have reinstalled vista and changed all the hardware to get the same problem, no doubt I will get directX, .net, vista fixes, chipset inf files are not upto date or incorrect or some other cop out. I have spent several days ripping my whole $"¬$¬£$ system apart to satisfy the whims of idiots who speak out of their backside and would not know a screwdriver from a toothpick. I have completely gutted the registry of all display driver references and completely rebuilt the .net system from scratch to satisfy these stab in the dark imbeciles. But to state categorically what does "not" work....
I did all of these things and more a hundred times over in a hundred different sequences and nothing worked other then disabling crossfire in some form or other. Which makes a mockery of the crossfire concept really doesn't it? So what has caused this and who is to blame. Well I can install 8.5 through 8.10 with no issues although 8.10 can give you a blank screen during the install....where I have to connect to card 2 if I want to see anything for some obscure reason. Restarting brings video back to card 1 again ?!?!?? Many others have exactly the same 8.11 driver only problem. All can stop the bluescreens only by disabling crossfire. Well heres the culprit.....
Not familiar with this? ATI is very familiar with it since fabruary 2007 with the 7.2 and 7.3 drivers. You can read all about it here http://www.driverheaven.net/vista-radeon-display-drivers/133161-who-has-probs-bsods-vista-7-3-a.html ...yes that right nearly two years ago...deja vu or what! Yet they said nothing here. It always seems to be us cleaning up ATIs mess. To be frank i'm spitting bile at the moment. So its probably best I just give the to fix for the rest of you poor buggers who feel the pain out there. Perhaps you can play your crossfire games for xmas with a bit of luck.
WARNING: your system will now be fully operational and you can install the ccc kit if you like. This will be fully functional but you have to restart for crossfire enable/disables to take effect.....and thats the cause of the problem in a round about way. If you benchmark now, your 3dmark06 scores will be 500-1000 points down with the event utility disabled. You can now switch the utility back on and your marks will instantly rise 500-1000 points. When utility is disabled ccc takes ages to load up. When utility enabled ccc loads rapidly. BUT IF YOU HIT THE CROSSFIRE BUTTON WITH EVENT UTILITY RUNNING.....YOU WILL INSTANTLY BLUE SCREEN! You can use any other feature of ccc including overclocking (overdrive) with the event utility enabled....but dont touch that crossfire button without stopping the utility first. Have a nice day.....for a change. Mick
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You shouldnt be using the 2008 C++ redistributable as that causes installation problems with the drivers. ------------------------- Game.AMD Administrator |
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Really? Funny how I have had various combinations with/without 2005, 2008, 32 and x64 c++ distributables all to no avail. Thanks mate.... but I've been there and done that and know what has worked and what hasn't. I'd rather not be lectured on what I should or should not have done...especially when that advice is worthless and meaningless for this discussion. I installed with 2008 and 2005 with successsful installation. The problem is/was tih the event utility. FULL STOP! |
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I disabled my External Event service due to the fact it constantly resets my driver every time I turn my TV off... But CCC didn't slow down it's loading at all for me, so that might be a random per system occurance. ------------------------- Intel C2Q Q9550 2.83GHz @ 3.6Hz | 2x2GB Mushkin Redline DDR2-1000 | A-Bit IX38 QuadGT FSB running @ 400MHz | HIS Radeon 4870x2 - 775MHz core, 920 RAM| Corsair HX1000 PSU | Samsung 226BW LCD Monitor | Vista 32-Bit 3DMark Vantage score: P15149 GPU Score: 15522 CPU Score: 14130 |
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Hello. I'm running on Vista 32-bit, 2 x 4850, P5Q Pro. 8.10 worked fine for me. 8.11 and 8.12 crashed with the BSOD. Your tip worked like a charm for 8.12 (didn't try it with 8.11 but it would probably work with it too Cheers, |
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I can confirm that this fix has worked for me. Credit goes to relic. I can also confirm that 1) using the full Catalyst suite (Display + CCC) works. 2) CCC takes a little longer to load on startup in the taskbar These are the steps I took. 1) Remove previous Catalyst installation (didn't have to disable crossfire although removing catalyst should of disabled crossfire) 2) Restart when prompted 3) Upon BSOD, enter safemode 4) In start button, I typed services.msc and disabled ATI External Event service 5) Hit restart 6) Upon reaching desktop, enable crossfire and restart again. Once again, thanks for this fix. I encourage everyone with this problem to submit this to ATI. Vista 32 Bit/Rampage Formula x48/Q9450/2 ATI 4850's in Crossfire/4GB DDR2/WD 640GB/TX750W PSU |
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I noticed that this problem only affects 4850 crossfire users running vista (32/64 Bit) I've heard no reports of 4850 crossfire bsod's in xp. Also, why does this only affect 4850's in crossfire and not 4870's in crossfire? |
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Funny how I have had various combinations with/without 2005, 2008, 32 and x64 c++ distributables all to no avail.
Thanks mate.... but I've been there and done that and know what has worked and what hasn't.
I'd rather not be lectured on what I should or should not have done...especially when that advice is worthless and meaningless for this discussion.
I installed with 2008 and 2005 with successsful installation. The problem is/was tih the event utility. FULL STOP!
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Anyone following this thread might be interested in this post over at Rage3D. http://www.rage3d.com/board/showpost.php?p=1335730318&postcount=20
...and for Vista 32-bit http://www.rage3d.com/board/showpost.php?p=1335730380&postcount=23
Big thanks to Spyre for posting these. I can confirm that the BSOD is fixed (x64) and CFX works fine. |
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