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Topic Title: HIS 4850 no AUDIO over HDMI via Recevier Topic Summary: Created On: 07/07/2008 07:27 AM Status: Post and Reply |
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Hello,
I have an HIS ATI 4850 Card, Onkyo 576 Full Audio/Video 1.3 HDMI Receiver, 1080p Toshiba HDMI TV. Using Vista Sp1 I can hear the audio playing through the TV if i connect the ATI HDMI connection (DVI to HDMI) through HDMI cable directly to the TV. I Cannot hear audio if the connection goes through the Onkyo 576 Receiver to the TV. It WILL pass Video through no problems. No audio comes out of the 5.1 speakers of the onkyo. I have tried the latest Realtek 1.97 driver, but that simpy disables the HDMI audio device on the ATI card. The default microsoft vista drivers make the drive work ok when connecting straight to the TV. My system appears to have no conflicts or errors. link to another forum who have tried to help me, but unable to. ![]() http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...3597#r15913597 tried using Cat 8.6 with Hotfix, even tried the Cat beta 8.7 still nothing.
In the Cat control center, it see's the onkyo as DVI not HDMI. which is crazy.
I have even tried my second computer with an AMD 6000 and Gigabyte Motherboard, with another HIS 4850 and still cannot see the receiver. I am certain its the EDID side of the drivers of the card. THere are even reports of the same errors with Yamaha and denon receivers.
Please, any help would be great. Many Thanks
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There is a known issue with Yamaha receivers and its most likely the same problem. It is currently being investigated.
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That's Great! |
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Thanks Spyre, If you hear anything on the topic inside AMD/ATI, could you please let me know here? It's just others with Denon, Yahama & onkyo receivers (like myself) would like to know and i could pass some info on. Some ppl in the av forum are very dissapointed and are on the verge of returning their product. Thanks James |
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Any news about this problem, the 8.9 driver did not make a diffrens on my Onkyo 576 with a Gigabyte 780g mb, thinking of getting a Hd4670 gfc but only if this problem is solved I hate to go down the Nvidia way to get sound over hdmi to my reciever
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hi, I bought a 4870 and still didnt' resolve the issue. I am using Nvidia now. Works like a charm. Sorry Red Team. |
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I bought a 4870 and still didnt' resolve the issue. I am using Nvidia now. Works like a charm. Sorry Red Team. Well thats the easy solution, I give it one more driverupdate if the don`t fix it this time, well Nvidia her I come, this is frustrating I have 18ooxt Hd3650 850xt 800xl working in diffrent rigs and I love them plus the Ati cards I owned tru the years, but for a Htpc and reciever well thats a diffrent story, in PR department the say 7.1 sound over Hdmi as a sales point, don´t make me laugh
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I have a denon receiver and the same problem: when I plug the HDMI into the receiver with the DVI-HDMI converter supplied with my card, having the Realtek HDMI driver installed, the sound device shows up as "not plugged in", and, with other HDMI sources, where my AVR-3808 would show boxes for each channel of digital audio being received, I see nothing, and worse, I hear nothing. Also if the sound is limited to "DVD quality" even though I have a Blu-Ray drive capable of outputing TrueHD, I'm not too pleased either. I actually replaced an NVidia card with this card (Gigabyte Silent 4850) for better performance... but one key factor was the on-board audio via HDMI. At least ATI could issue a clear statement "No, it's not you: there's a problem with HDMI handshaking and we will have to fix it via: new driver, Firmware upgrade, whatever. There are people asking about this to no avail on discussion forums all over the 'net and ATI needs to at LEAST tell these users that there is no fix so we stop wasting our time. |
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I have the same issue with the ati 4870 and a Yamaha receiver This issue with the new ATI cards is being reported all over the the net. I currently have an open ticket with ATI support and they are looking into the issue.
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Gigabyte tech support tells me there is no audio chip on the 4850 card, and that I some how need to get my motherboard on-board audio through the video card to the HDMI port, but neither the manual nor online knowledge base on Gigabyte's website have any information on how I might do this. I am waiting for a reply to my follow up question. |
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I have the sound issue and the specs for the ASUS 4870 state:
Graphics GPU Features ATI® Radeon® HD 4870 PCI Express & PCI Express 2.0 support HDMI 1.3 Output: built-in multi-channel 7.1 surround audio over DVI-HDMI Adaptor |
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I have the exact same problem. ATI 4870 with ONKYO 606. Whats going on? This thread has been going for 3 months now.
Any news from ATI? It has to be a software problem because through the TV I have no problem.
Also, in CCC it shows my HDMI connection as DVI. But in the Realteak sound option it shows my Realtek HDMI Output as "Not plugged in" |
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Same issues for me - got a Powercolor HD4670 512mb card installed into Vista 32-bit and no audio. I have it conncected to a Denon 1909 AVR. I have the latest Catalyst Drivers installed - 8.10. I can't use anything earlier than this to try because the 4670 is only supported from 8.10 onwards. I have the amp set to expect audio only from the HDMI source. The 1909 can be configured to Auto, or you can tell it that it's only going to get audio from the HDMI source. It is normally set to receive sound from different sources (such as the SPDIF digital input, or phonos) and then automatically switch between them. When plugged directly into the TV (Pioneer plasma 435 XDE), the TV is detected as a HDMI device in CCC, the audio device shows as connected. If it's connected directly to the amp, I can get it to say it's connected by hot plugging the amp in but again (with the above tweak to tell it to only expect audio from the HDMI source), no sound comes out. Checking the status information on the amp shows it's getting nothing at all - it's not like the amp's receiving something but not playing it. A reboot, or closing of the sound device and re-open just says there's nothing plugged in again... I initially had the MS UAA default drivers installed and also tried the Realtek HDMI 2.03 driver but it's the same thing. Plus, no option to configure anything other than stereo with either driver (even with the hot plugging). The issue seems to be around the CCC detecting the Denon as a DVI device instead of HDMI. Someone on another forum said ATI were doing a number of HDMI fixes with 8.11 - I seriously hope so. The only reason I got the card was for the audio so I could get HD Audio out of PowerDVD. At the moment it's a complete bust. I have a ticket raised with ATI support. So far they've been of no help. Got the standard response and then another telling me to check the audio device was set to be the default one. Which doesn't exactly explain it thinks there's nothing plugged in... |
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I got it working: here are some random notes and observations. I hope they help other people. The upshot is that my Denon AVR-3808CI has 4 HDMI inputs on it. It appears port 4 is somehow superior to the other ports in how it tells the HDMI 'interpreter' on the computer what it can do or that it is an HDMI port or whavever. So, now I do get sound out of the HDMI port. Other observations: You have to follow the instructions and use the supplied DVI-HDMI adaptor, NOT an DVI-HDMI cable. You must plug the adaptor into a specific port on the card: check the documentation that came with your card. As far as whether or not the HD4000 series cards have a built-in audio chip or not, well, I haven't heard from ATI on the matter, but it seems that the Gigabyte card does not (according to my heated exchange with Gigabyte tech support) But once I got the HDMI cable plugged into port 4 on my receiver, and got the audio, i was still curious: so I rebooted my computer and disabled the audio circuitry on my motherboard in the BIOS. Now, if I understand correctly, for all intents and purposes, when the circuitry is disabled in the BIOS, the operating system doesn't even think there is audio hardware on the motherboard. maybe I'm wrong... but after starting up the machine, I STILL HAD AUDIO!! It sounded a bit tinny-er than before... but I had audio nonetheless. Before disabling audio, Powerdvd let me to Direct Streaming out via HDMI: after disabling the audio, I could only do LPCM. So, perhaps the CPU took over digital audio signal routing, but limited the quality of the audio for content protection purposes. Not sure. I re-enabled the motherboard's onboard audio circuitry, changed PowerDVD back to direct stream out to HDMI, and now have HDMI audio. I even have disabled (via Windows Sound device control panel) the S/PDIF and "speaker" audio outs. And the best thing? With Realtek "soundback", I was playing System Shock 2 on VISTA with 7.1 surround. I almost peed myself... but being able to play my favourite games on Vista with 7.1 surround on my 46 inch panny plazma is what I bought the card for in the first place. |
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The final response from Ati Tech support is to wait for 8.11 which is supposed to address several issues with HDMI. HE SAID THEY WOULD BE OUT IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS...... |
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Well Well Well. It's been two weeks. Updated with 8.11. Still getting the weird channels with HDMI.
HOWEVER, when I put my HDMI into the 4th HDMI input I got sound and video. I have an ONKYO 606.
Give it a go guys.
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Hello everyone, I've been eagerly awaiting a fix for this issue. I have the exact same problem with video working (but no sound) going through my new Yamaha AX763 receiver - via hdmi. I have a Powercolor Radeon 4870. I've tried the new catalyst 8.11 - doesn't seem to make a difference for me. I don't have 4 inputs to try - just the 2. Neither worked. Does anybody know if this issue will ever get resolved? I desperately want a solution because my motherboards onboard sound through optical gives me grief with lip-sync issues - and I specifically bought my new amp (along with a LG blu-ray/hddvd player) so I could enjoy all this card has to offer. Anybody know of a solution I'd be eternally gratefull! Thanks in advance! PS. Sound works through hdmi when plugged directly into my tv - but I want to make use of my 5.1 surround! ------------------------- Asus P5B Deluxe Wi-fi AP / Q6600 @ 2.4Ghz / 4GB OCZ PC2-8500 Reaper HPC Edition / Powercolor 4870 / Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB HD / LG GGC-H20L /Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit SP1 / Custom Watercooled |
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I have the same issue and the 8.11 driver release did not help either. I have a 4850 512mb and a denon 1909 amp. I have managed to get the audio working directly with my TV but once the amp is in the loop, the audio does not work. I have installed the r203 realtek ati hdmi driver and it shows the hdmi audio as not connected when it is attached to the amp. This lets me know that the cables work, the g/card works, the amp works. But the amp cannot talk to the 4850. I have tried the hdmi cable in multiple ports on the amp. My question is, the drivers were not due for another week or so, was the HDMI fix dropped for this release ?
ps fix the hdmi edid problems soon, or i will swap to the big N. |
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I still can't get mine to work either with 8.11. I was able to make it work before the issue with the no video through DVI after spending several hours on it. I work in QA and I understand that some things do get by, but what I don't understand is how something like this is not fixed by now. I have worked the weekend just to recreate an issue for development so that the defect could be fixed and a patch released on Monday for a client. I have used ATI since the early 90's and have NEVER owned an Nvidia product, but I think this will be my last card. |
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Are we ever going to see a fix? I just purchased an HIS 4650 and I get no sound to my Onkyo SR806. If there is no fix in sight this thing is going back. |
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