 08/24/2012 11:17 AM
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MVinhas n00b

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Hi,
I have an AMD HD3850 AGP from Sapphire. The card runs well most games under Vista/7, but in Windows 8 i noticed a loss of about 20~30% on gaming performance, which is not normal. Will AMD release at least one driver for HD3000/4000 series? I mean, cards like HD3870 and HD4870 are still powerfull, so makes sense release at least one driver for this OS.
My specs:
Conroe Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz @ 2.77GHz
4GB RAM DDRII (although my MB only sees 3,25GB)
Sapphire HD3850 AGP
SSD Drive
Windows 8 Enterprise x86 [edited, typed the wrong version]
Much aprecciated,
Micael Vinhas
Edited: 08/24/2012 at 09:09 PM by MVinhas
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 08/24/2012 11:21 AM
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fretboard Member

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It's an AGP card and those were made obsolete an absolute AEON ago .. You'd have to discuss that with Sapphire as they continued to make AGP cards after ATI dropped all production and support for them. If AMD do happen to make a driver for it, then you'll just have to wait for a suitable one.
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 08/24/2012 11:33 AM
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stumped Dungeon Master

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The problem is the agp card. Also, read this http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/recommended-system-requirements-for-windows-8/
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 08/24/2012 11:47 AM
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MVinhas n00b

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But AMD are still making Catalyst drivers with AGP hotfix for cards like HD3850 and HD4670 (but for WinXP/Vista/7)...the latest are 12.6 i guess...if they at least release one driver for Win8 that works on HD3000/4000 series PCIe, i have no doubt that Sapphire will release an AGP Hotfix for those drivers. Otherwise i have to revert to Win7.
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 08/24/2012 03:59 PM
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black_zion Heavy Wizardry

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You have no doubt that Sapphire will waste their time releasing AGP drivers for Windows 8 when even their PCIe counterparts are not supported under Windows 8 (HD 2000-HD 4000 series cards are WDDM 1.1, HD 5000 series and above are WDDM 1.2)? I think Sapphire would rather tell you to spend money on modern, supported hardware.
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 08/24/2012 04:07 PM
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MVinhas n00b

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There is still a large comunity of people with a HD3000/HD4000 out there. The AGP Hotfix is not a problem for me, the truth is i can install a Catalyst driver with no Hotfix and still getting my card working. My problem is the lack os support for Windows 8 for this graphics cards series...I know you dont care about nvidia, but for eg. they have drivers for boards like 8800GTX in their site (and 8800GTX is WDDM1.1)...so...
Spend money? lol I'm Portuguese 
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 08/24/2012 07:09 PM
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black_zion Heavy Wizardry

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Except that every AGP card after the X1950 is unofficial. I don't know what "lol I'm Portuguese" is supposed to mean, but if you can afford Windows 8 then you can afford good quality used supported PCIe hardware.
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 08/24/2012 09:06 PM
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MVinhas n00b

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Sense of humor=0 It was just a joke.
I don't know if any current PCIe card works on a PCIe1.0 slot, and i can't spend more than 75€ on a board right know... (for that price i cant get HD6670, but this board is better than HD3850?).
If i have Windows 8, of course i wouldn't pay for it...i'm talking about the Win8 Enterprise with 90-day evaluation.
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 08/24/2012 10:13 PM
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black_zion Heavy Wizardry

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PCIe is backwards compatible, but with PCIe 1.0 x16 = PCIe 2.0 x8, take your pick, HD 5770, HD 6770, HD 6870, HD 7770, all would fit inside that bandwidth.
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 08/24/2012 10:41 PM
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MVinhas n00b

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Thanks for the reply, but i think i have to switch everything on my PC if i wanna buy a new graphics card. My MoBo is an Asrock 4CoreDual-SATA2. The PCIe lane is 4x, not 16x...so i think that an HD5000/6000 would not work here.
Edited: 08/25/2012 at 03:37 AM by MVinhas
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