Topic Title: R9 295x2 Problem
Topic Summary: I feel as if my 295x2 card should be performing better at 1080p
Created On: 05/06/2014 06:32 PM
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 05/06/2014 06:32 PM
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Welp, I told myself I would save up money for this when I heard about it, so it came out, and I got one. Before I tell you my problems I shall tell you about my set up.

AMD FX-9590 4.7Ghz Eight-Core AM3+
ASUS Sabertooth 990FX AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD (Only PCI 2.0) (latest BIOS, pretty sure, will check when I can)
16GB Corsair Vengence DDR3 Ram
Nvidia GTX 660ti (overclocked edition) 2GB ( my Previous card! Switched to R9 295x2 now)
1050w Corsair power supply
240 GB Corsair Force 3 Solid State Hard Drive
500 GB 7200rpm Hard Disk Drive
1000 GB 7200 Hard Disk Drive (in which I install all my games on)
H100 Corsair Water Cooling System
HAF932 Red Edition Full Tower

In my opinion a pretty powerful system. Ran everything in medium/high settings perfectly fine. Perhaps back then I didn't pay too close attention to the FPS of games, but now that I switched to a card that can supposedly handle anything I started to look at what was happening.

Initially when I installed this on my Windows 7 64b machine I was getting BSOD whenever I would turn off my monitor... very frustrating, my only choice was to fresh install Windows because I was not going to sit around trying to figure out the details. I decided to upgrade to Windows 8.1 64bit which has indeed solved my BSOD issues. (Thinking of trying to switch back to 7 64b tonight to see if that makes any difference with a fresh install) All windows updates have been installed and I am using "Display Driver ver. 14.10.1006" which is the newest.

However now that I finally am over that and able to sit down with my games I feel as if this card is simply not performing the way it should. Keep in mind I am only gaming at 1080p, not 4k. So I figured I should be massacreing these games.

The only game I am actually able to get great, and expected, performance out of is Tomb Raider. Max Settings all the way through, I can get about 140 FPS. and if I turn off the TressFX Hair I can even get up to 260 FPS. HOWEVER, I have had random crashes during game play sometimes.

Thief also runs relatively great, but I can only get up to 60 FPS is seems, or perhaps a little higher. Just thought it should be more running with 8GB of Video Memory at only 1080p

Dark Souls 2 I am downsampling from 4k to 1080p, and it also runs pretty smoothly, If I don't downsample I get a constant nice 60 fps.

I hear that Guild Wars 2 is horribly optimized, but I love it, so I ran it anyway, At MAX settings, which this card should EASILY do I can get any where between 20 and 40 FPS depending on the areas. Sometimes 60 if there is no one around. However, my laptop which has a 765M can also run the same, and even better, and it only has 2GB of memory for the graphics. So what's up with that?

Warframe won't even run! It crashes right after logging in.

Firefall, I know its in BETA, but I have horrid artifacts every where, its completely unplayable.

Bioshock Infinite looks gorgeous at MAX settings but hiccups an awful lot for a card of this power. I feel like it shouldn't, It even crashes, especially during scene changes (Think of the end game, when going from light house to light house scene.)

Skyrim runs alright, but I am also getting a bunch of artifacts, and I feel like the loading time are crazy, when on my 660ti they were not bad at all. Admittedly, I do have it heavily modded, so I might have to tweak that.

Heaven and Valley Benchmarks, I can max out the settings but I feel like it hiccups a bit too much, and at 1080p I can drop to 30 FPS sometimes, Average around 70ish, and maxing at 120 FPS. The hiccups are the problems.

TLDR; I feel like the R9 295x2 is not performing the way it should. Especially for all the power that it boasts. My thoughts on the problem:

Could it be my PSU isn't powerful enough? Despite being 1050watts, I am thinking perhaps because I have a power-hungry AMD FX 9590, cooled with an H100 closed-loop liquid cooling system, that maybe my PSU is hitting its limits?

Could it be because my MOBO is PCI 2.0? Although I heard that it shouldn't matter, and even 3.0 might have lacking performance at this point in time.

Could it simply be that the drivers just aren't mature yet?

In any case, for now I am simply not impressed! But I really want to give this card a chance.

Thanks for all the help anyone can give. There are still a few tests I'd like to perform, like turning off that Raptr gaming app that runs in the background, although I think my system should be powerful enough to handle all that I throw at it.

PS) Should I be checking off the "Crossfire" option in AMD Catalyst? I know this card is "Two in One" is it considered Crossfire??? I have had it checked for now, and do believe I notice a bit of a difference with it on.

 05/07/2014 05:49 PM
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Well I did a fresh install BACK to Windows 7, this time I completely formatted all my hard drives, 100% clean. Everything is playing MUCH MUCH better. I still feel like it was too much of a hassle. I also feel as if some games are still not playing as well as they should, but I am just going to have to accept I might be bottlenecked by a few factors (my processor, PCI 2.0, maybe a bit my PSU) So for now I am quite happy. Just figured I'd update everyone. Thank you.

 05/07/2014 07:39 PM
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It's a good idea to do a format and reinstalltion of Windows every few years, it's why I use WSUS Offline Update to keep copies of all the Windows updates and Ketarin to keep updates of all the programs I use so I can get back up and running in an hour.

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 05/08/2014 12:27 PM
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I got a response back from AMD and they said my system should be fine - nothing wrong with my hardware, and then they went on to admit that the driver out now "May not optimize the games you play, we will increase the performance of the crossfire system in future releases."

 05/08/2014 03:55 PM
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And that is different from any new release hardware, how?

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