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 06/07/2013 09:22 AM
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Sorry, but 220 Watt TDP?

How many mainboards can pass that much without turning into a fuse?

And how much fan noise results from cooling such a scorcher?

Perhaps if you rigged up water cooling and hang the radiator out the window...

Seems like a Pentium D extreme edition when Intel were desperate.

 06/07/2013 10:05 AM
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TDP is a thermal profile, it doesn't necessarily mean so much power has to run through the motherboard.



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 06/07/2013 10:56 AM
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TDP - Thermal Design Profile. Wikipedia article

How many mainboards can pass that much without turning into a fuse?


Higher end motherboards with 990FX chipsets, solid state capacitors, multiple power phases, and other high grade components, which is why these motherboards come with an EPS12v (often called a P8) for the additional power.

And how much fan noise results from cooling such a scorcher?


Depends on the cooler you choose. High grade copper air coolers or closed loop liquid coolers are pretty quiet, whereas antique top down coolers are quite loud.

Perhaps if you rigged up water cooling and hang the radiator out the window...


Or just got a high performance closed loop liquid cooler such as the Corsair H100i.

Seems like a Pentium D extreme edition when Intel were desperate.


Actually it's more like a Corvette, people with small penises will buy them, benchmark them, and then scream everywhere that they have it.

anybody salivating over the FX-9000 ?


Not me, my GPU usage hits 100% before any one core nears 100% on my CPU. I'm waiting for DDR4 support before I even consider upgrading.

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 06/07/2013 04:57 PM
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Except that the P4EE had a rated TDP of about half that. 

Not exactly an apples to apples comparison... but however we define TDP now, 220 watts is a lot of it. 

It's not uncommon for video cards to have TDPs >200W these days, but only a portion of that is sent from the slot through the motherboard.  The rest comes from external power connectors.  Then again, if you're going to pay whatever silly price tag this chip is sure to have, then you probably won't mind paying a bunch of a capable board as well.



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 06/07/2013 05:09 PM
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AMD plans to unveil the two at E3, that would be roughly 11th and 13th June.

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CPU Turbo Core 5.0 GHz Unknown 4.2 GHz
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TDP 220 W 220 W 125 W
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 06/07/2013 05:55 PM
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If you think about it though it is fairly common to add a little more voltage and push up the clocks on any 125w processor which easily pushes the TDP up to 150w or even 175w, perhaps even higher if you are lucky enough to get one of those highly overclockable chips. However unless AMD changed their practices, and the mods can tell you if they did, AMD rates their chips on the worst case situation whereas Intel rates theirs on a average use situation. The way the prices should work out the FX-9000 should be past the point of diminishing returnsand the FX-8770 should approach it.

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 06/07/2013 07:18 PM
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You think that's common because of how you've seen TDP defined in the past.    The real picture of how increasing voltage and clock speed affects heat dissipation isn't nearly as neat and tidy.

The point being... it's still a power hog no matter where that number comes from, but if you're going to buy that chip, then you probably won't care. 



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 06/07/2013 09:39 PM
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It will be interesting to see what the actual power and thermal numbers work out to be, and to see which boards will actually support it.

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 06/22/2013 06:25 AM
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I have two 50 PSI Swifttech pumps in series supplying cooling to my current CPU and 2 swifttech twin fan radiators in series with a triple fan swifttech radiator which are attached to the back outside of my 840 Cool Master case, and I'm pretty sure that what ever AMD builds for the next few years at least I will be able to cool it down enough to run it with no problems. Besides the CPU speeds and the L3/L2 cache sizes and speeds, the next big break through may well be in the area of hybrid CPU technology such as coupling one or more ARM processors with the AMD processors and memory controllers. It's going to be fun to watch what AMD comes up with!!!



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 07/02/2013 07:28 PM
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Been thinking about buying this when it comes out but u hear steamroller will come out this year as well so I'm not 100% sure if i'll get it.

Every AMD CPU since my 1090T people say wait for that cpu then when it comes out most people say well lets wait for the next cpu because the next one is going to be better. Anyone else notice this? 



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 07/02/2013 07:42 PM
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It's the same for any first generation hardware, it has its drawbacks which subsequent revisions fix. For instance, the HD 7000 series is generation one GCN which, while giving a substantial boost in GPGPU, is not significantly better in DirectX than VLIW4.

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