Topic Title: CPU / Motherboard Integration, PLZ NO!
Topic Summary: Intel is going to a Motherboard/CPU integrated setup. AMD, please do not do this!
Created On: 06/10/2013 02:46 PM
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 06/10/2013 02:46 PM
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HopnDude
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Someone with some inside info please inform us what we might expect in the coming years!

Intel is planning on putting an end to user-replaceable CPU's. By getting rid of the LGA (Land Grid Array) and going to a BGA (Ball Grid Array). Making it to where the entire Motherboard and CPU have to be replaced at the same time.

Let’s say you've got a Gigabyte 990FX and you're using a 1100T (like I am now). You've got a nice video card setup, 16 gigs of ram, SSD HDD setup, and a Raid 1 configuration for your music/movies/etc. The only thing out of date is the CPU. So I look around, I purchase AMD's FX8350, flash my BIOS with the latest updated BIOS drivers. An swap the CPU's out, new Artic Silver, place water cooling block back on, done! Do a few tweaks to the CPU's v-core/fsb for a steady bump an you're done!

With Intel’s latest idea, you wouldn't be able to do this! You cannot select the Motherboard you want, you have to use the motherboard that is only offered for the CPU. From an AMD user’s perspective, this would suck! Maybe not so much from an Intel platform, but if AMD stayed the way it has always been, might allow AMD to swoop in on some profits as Intel uses slowly get a bad taste in their mouth from Intel only allowing certain brand motherboard manufactures to be used!

 

Any words from any AMD employees to give insight, hopefully insight saying that AMD isn't going to do this would be greatly appreciated!

Intel Article on "Preparing to put and end to user-replaceable CPUs.



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 06/11/2013 11:17 AM
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PCCHIPS/ECS and other OEMs did that back in the Athlon days... don't see why intel wouldn't on their bundles...



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 06/11/2013 01:43 PM
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Such bundles never cover the whole market, its for those who never have a need to upgrade individual hardware - like office pc's, its more time consuming for them to swap out whole pc's and save money on optional features they would never use.



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 06/11/2013 05:52 PM
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The target for that is primarily the OEM market (HP, Dell, etc) who use custom boards with custom BIOSs which often only support a couple of CPUs and have basically zero ability to upgrade to a better CPU anyway, as well as laptops which the majority of are built to tight thermal constraints which prevents upgrading to a faster processor.

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 06/11/2013 06:18 PM
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I buy from the DIY markets and there are many like me who buy a bare CPU when an upgrade is needed

I am sure my CPU fan along was a signicant part of the cost of the product as it has 4 heat pipies and a copper base.

Overclocked to 4 GHz has been rock stable.

 



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 06/13/2013 04:45 AM
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My friend an I both purchased a rig around 5 years ago. He got Q6600 and I got the phenom 710.

Since then I upgraded the processor to a phenom II x2 555 which I unlocked to x4 and overclocked to 3.8ghz. This computer sits at my mom's house.

I got myself another cheap computer when I was a student, athlon II x2 (overclocked), 780g board. My brother took it for his apartment and when memory prices went down I upgraded the better computer's ram to 2x4gb and moved the 2x2gb I had to the other computer.

Right now I'm typing on a computer I got myself with 7870 XT graphics, 990X board, 2x4gb memory, 128gb SSD, and my trusty old phenom II x3 710 overclocked to 3.2 ghz alongside an old arctic xtreme hsf I got when I bought this cpu. This cpu will probably be a placeholder until I feel like upgrading, and then I'll put it in my brother's computer. However, beside some minor stuttering and lagging on huge multiplayers this cpu works just fine so I don't think I can justify the upgrade just yet.

All in all, throughout all these upgrades and swaps, the only component that's unused is an old 2x1gb ocz memory kit. Most other components are hard at work as they are overclocked.

Getting back to my friend, he's stuck on old and pricey ddr2, pcie 1.0 and a dead platform.

AMD is great for people like me and you, too bad there are so few of them.



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