Topic Title: Is an upgrade an option?
Topic Summary: Older Laptop CPU Upgrade
Created On: 12/25/2013 08:10 PM
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 12/25/2013 08:10 PM
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mwilson0463
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I've got an older laptop circa 2007 with an AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-56 1.8GHz processor...the laptop is a Dell Inspiron 1501.

I'm upgrading the ram and was curious if there was a faster CPU available that should be an easy swap out of my old CPU.

I'm only keeping this thing alive because I don't have the room currently to set up my desktop.

Speaking of my desktop I have an AMD 1090T Black Edition and was wondering what an appropriate upgrade for this one would be as well.

Thank You.

 12/25/2013 11:50 PM
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Replacing a socket S1g1 product (such as the TL-56) isn't likely to be worth the trouble.

As far as the 1090T is concerned, it's FX-8350 or nothing (with an AM3+ board upgrade as well, of course). The 1090T/1100T products still do really well in applications where threading is not a big deal.

Is this for gaming purposes or productivity? If it's for gaming, you're probably better off picking up a R9 200 product vs upgrading your desktop CPU.



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 12/25/2013 11:54 PM
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I'm fortunate enough to already possess an AM3+ board from when I built the system.  The Desktop is multi-purpose, I like to do some rather demanding gaming as well as productivity work.  Do the new processors have a hyperthreading capability?

 12/26/2013 12:13 AM
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All FX products (2012/2013) have two integer cores per (Bulldozer) module which is AMD's response to Hyperthreading.

The FX-8350, for example, has 8 integers cores on 4 modules. It does best in multi-threaded workloads but is still able to outpace Phenom II in single-threaded applications.

If you already have an AM3+ board and you're looking for something that will outperform your 1090T, then it is likely a fairly straight forward decision:

The FX-8350 will be your best option if you have any sort of budget. Otherwise, the FX-9590 or 9370 will both be good picks if overclocking isn't your thing.

I've recently seen the 9370 on for $240, which is decent, but keep in mind that the 8350, 9370, and 9590 are all exactly the same chip with different binning.



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 12/26/2013 10:03 AM
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Also keep in mind that the FX-9000 series CPUs require a special AM3+ mobo that has a VRM circuit capable of delivering sufficient power for these 220w TDP CPUs. These CPUs also require at least a top end tower cooler or water cooling. Only a handful of AM3+ mobos are approved for the FX-9000 series CPUs. Other mobos are likely to burn out the VRM circuit or throttle the FX-9000 series CPUs at best.

The FX-8350 IME is the best product and quite capable IMO but you need to confirm that your mobo supports the 8-core FX processors as many have VRM issues with these CPUs when placed under heavy loads. Your mobo maker should list online if your specific model mobo supports the FX-8350 or other model CPUs.



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Edited: 12/26/2013 at 12:44 PM by AMDforMe
 12/26/2013 06:29 PM
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What's the difference between the 9590 and the 9370 all the specs look nearly identical?

 12/26/2013 08:50 PM
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The base and turbo mode frequencies are the only difference.

 Base for the 9590 is 4700 MHz. and the 9370 is 4400 MHz.



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