Topic Title: The new DDR4 ram....
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Created On: 01/14/2014 08:46 AM
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 01/14/2014 08:46 AM
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When will AMD have support for the "new" DDR4 ram,that is coming within this year 2014? I have NOT seen any motherboards(anywhere)that actually will support it;but,I have seen INTEL...jumping on the bandwagon,and going as fast as they can--to have motherboards that do support DDR4. WHEN...will AMD wake-up and get something at the very least "talked" about;and,hopefully that will be available sometime soon...for this ram?

 

 01/14/2014 09:21 AM
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With their new socket and chipset later this year.

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 01/14/2014 12:52 PM
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DDR4 offers almost nothing for desktop use that DDR3 LV doesn't offer. It's just a marketing game. Asus and Intel are both good at hyping worthless tech that isn't needed for years. DDR3 @1600 MHz is not a system bottleneck even on a enthusiasts performance level CPU powered desktop, thus DDR4 is just a future tech no one needs for years.

In addition DDR4 RAM uses a different topology so you must install all of the RAM as one kit. There is no adding RAM you must replace it all and it won't be cheap. THIS is why the RAM makers are pushing DDR4. For servers it has some value but not for desktop PCs.

AMD is pinning it's future on Kaveri and FM2+. Thankfully Kaveri is good for entry to mid-level desktop and will be very good for laptops. Other than that AMD has essentially abandoned the true discrete desktop market as there is no Steamroller upgrade for socket AM3+.

Kaveri is definitely worth talking about and the official release today is generating a lot of positive reviews.



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 01/19/2014 10:26 PM
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DDR4 does away with the dual channel nonsense

so you have 1 stick for each memory channel

makes it simpler for consumers to upgrade as cpu memory controllers are easy to reprogram as needed when a new stick is added to another slot

I am in no rush, I just built the rig I am using now 9 months ago

 



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 01/19/2014 10:32 PM
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DDR4 uses a different topology from DDR3. You install all the RAM you want as one kit. If you want more RAM you must replace all of the RAM. There is no adding another DIMM nor programing of the memory controller. It really offers nothing tangible in system performance for desktop use. It's designed primarily for servers and it will be expensive.

Some companies like Asus and Intel however will be more than happy to mislead consumers into believing there is an advantage for desktop PCs use so that they can sell you new hardware.

An educated consumer doesn't fall for marketing hype.



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Edited: 01/20/2014 at 11:15 PM by AMDforMe
 01/20/2014 10:27 PM
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My box right now is reasonably powerful, the CPU is cranked up to 4 GHz which is what the Deneb can do.

My video card is factory overclocked rather heavily making it very powerful. 

I am in no rush for gen 1 of DDR4, I will use this box for probably another 18-24 months before I do another build.

I was considering some nickel and dime stuff like water cooling to deal with the CPU fan noise

I have 8 GB of RAM, seems to be enough for now....

 



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 01/24/2014 01:45 AM
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Originally posted by: AMDforMe DDR4 uses a different topology from DDR3. You install all the RAM you want as one kit. If you want more RAM you must replace all of the RAM. There is no adding another DIMM nor programing of the memory controller. It really offers nothing tangible in system performance for desktop use. It's designed primarily for servers and it will be expensive.

 

 

Sounds like RamBUS all over again...  lol



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 01/24/2014 09:52 PM
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much better than Rambus - 1 stick bad and you have to replace ALL of them!

.. pretty much a 'smart' cash grab.

 

 



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