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 01/20/2014 10:03 AM
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joeldcosta799
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Hi everyone.

This are the specs of a PC i want to build

 

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AMD 3.2 GHz AM3 Phenom II 1090T Processor

ASUS M4N68T-M LE V2 Motherboard

Dell S2240L 21.5 inch LED Backlit LCD Monitor 1920*1080 Resolution

Sapphire AMD/ATI Radeon HD 6670 1 GB DDR3 Graphics Card

Strontium DDR3 2 GB PC RAM (SRT2G88U1-H9H) + 2GB RAM (Model Details Unknown) = 4 GB RAM

Cooler Master Thunder 500W 500 Watts PSU 

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I want to know if

1) the system will run smoothly

2) it will support demanding games like Crysis

3) I need to make any changes or add anything.

Thanks in advance...

 01/20/2014 11:26 AM
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Hi well that motherboard uses a nivida chipset old and hard to get driver's for, get a board that uses a amd chipset. Also motherboard manufactures give a recommended Ram type for each board they have you need to look at the specs on the board and then compatible memory. Strontium Ram is not on the list for that board. 

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 01/20/2014 12:20 PM
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Apart from that any other problem or obstacles???

Because i already have the mobo, the monitor and RAM.

Its the processor, graphics card and cooler im worried about...

 01/20/2014 12:27 PM
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1) Yes
2) HELL NO
3) A Better graphics card, new motherboard, better RAM, and a new power supply.

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 01/20/2014 03:11 PM
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Hi what you have to understand is all parts of a gaming pc have to be compatible. If you put in cheap ram  that the motherboard does not like you will be playing a game and the pc will reboot. If the PSU is under powered the system will reboot. Coolermaster PSU's are ok you just need a more powerfull one. The one you choose has 2 12 volt rails one at 24 amp the other at 21 amps it is always best to choose a PSU with one 12 volt rail at 80 amps or so. Any manufacture makes a cheap version of there power supplys the problem with that is with 500 watt you will be makeing the psu heat up when that happens the output wattage drops.

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 01/21/2014 11:03 AM
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The thing is that i couldnt understand what RAM is recommended by ASUS for the mobo specified.

http://support.asus.com/QVL.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=1&m=M4N68T-M%20LE%20V2&hashedid=lmmJ9tOlOWTbWM3V

Check the above link and please let me know what kind of RAM is exactly recommended..

Also i wanted to know if the processor and gpu specified will support demanding games if supported properly by other components since the mobo supports only max 8GB RAM and AM3 Socket.

Any recommendations regarding the GPU, CPU and Cooler and PSU are welcome as i havnt bought any yet...

Thanks..

 01/21/2014 02:19 PM
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RAM made by quality name brands (G.SKILL, Corsair, Crucial, Kingston) shouldn't have any issues with any board, it's when you get into the no name brands and "Value" RAM that you have the problem. As for recommendations, give us a budget figure, but at 1920x1080 you're going to need to spend over $500 no matter if you go with AMD or Intel, Radeon or GeForce.

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 01/21/2014 05:16 PM
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While it's true that brand name DDR3 RAM should work without issues, on occasion there are issues with brand name RAM on certain mobos. Asus mobos have been noted to be very RAM model sensitive. Usually when the better mobo makers and RAM mfgs. are alerted to the problem, they work together to release a BIOS update that corrects the timing or compatibility issues that might exist.

It's also worth noting that the RAM that a mobo maker lists on their website is just a LIMITED amount of RAM that they personally tested on some mobos to confirm compatibility. There have still been cases where the RAM on the mobo maker's "approved list" had issues. This lists go out of date very quickly as the mobo makers only test enough RAM to release a mobo.

The RAM makers are literally building DIMMs with new and often minutely different IC's almost weekly - depending on the availability of ICs. You can buy the same part number name brand RAM 2-4 weeks apart and get two different ICs even though the part has the same number.

Thus I recommend buying quality name brand DDR3 RAM from your favorite source in whatever quantity makes you happy. The better quality RAM comes with a Lifetime Warranty. They make so much profit on RAM that many companies just throw it in the trash when you return it without even testing it most of the time.

Most people never use more then 4 GB. of RAM so 8GB. is usually plenty even for gaming. Some folks with the appropriate software and O/S may benefit from more the 8GB. of RAM but they are the minority by a large amount.



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Building a reliable PC involves more than just assembling the parts. You need to be able to configure all of the BIOS settings appropriately. This can be quite involved and frustrating as it can require a lot of trial and error with stress testing. It is however often the only means to get a 100% reliable PC.

 01/25/2014 02:04 AM
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Please recommend a PSU and Cooler for:

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AMD 3.5 GHz AM3+ FX 8320 8 Core Piledriver Processor / AMD 3.2 GHz AM3 Phenom II 1090T Processor

ASUS M5A97 LE Motherboard

Dell S2240L 21.5 inch LED Backlit LCD Monitor 1920*1080 Resolution

CORSAIR CMT8GX3M2B2133C9(XMP) / Corsair Vengeance DDR3 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) PC RAM (CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R)

Gainward NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 2 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card

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Also suggest changes  in GPU card and subsequently in PSU and Cooler as to support games a  less demanding than Crysis eg NFS MW 2012, FIFA 14, Devil May Cry, Saints Row The Third, GTA V,etc.
 01/25/2014 05:03 AM
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Corsair CX600 maybe? ..and Coolermaster Hyper 212 as the cooler cause its cheap and does a really good job.



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 01/25/2014 06:55 AM
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Aren't the heatsink and cooler that come with the AMD FX 8320 not enough for the system specs above??

Also recommend a Cabinet Cooler if required..

 01/25/2014 07:21 AM
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Aah, usually when asked for a cooler, they mean the cpu cooler. Cabin coolers depend entirely on the case itself, what fan slots it has.



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 01/25/2014 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by: joeldcosta799 Please recommend a PSU and Cooler for:

 

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AMD 3.5 GHz AM3+ FX 8320 8 Core Piledriver Processor / AMD 3.2 GHz AM3 Phenom II 1090T Processor

 

ASUS M5A97 LE Motherboard

 

Dell S2240L 21.5 inch LED Backlit LCD Monitor 1920*1080 Resolution

 

CORSAIR CMT8GX3M2B2133C9(XMP) / Corsair Vengeance DDR3 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) PC RAM (CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R)

 

Gainward NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 2 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card

 

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Also suggest changes  in GPU card and subsequently in PSU and Cooler as to support games a  less demanding than Crysis eg NFS MW 2012, FIFA 14, Devil May Cry, Saints Row The Third, GTA V,etc.

 

Do you have a harddisk or/and SSD for storage and which OS are you going to use? Don't forget that this also will add to your cost.

SSD (Solid State Disk) is a bit more expensive then a HD, but will give you a gain in faster loading time both for OS and for application.

Take a look on this forum, which have collected a long list for how good each MB are for VRM (=power to CPU). Especially the late FX generation on AM3+ chipset demand good quality power produced by in efficient manner by VRM. If VRM are getting to hot, then CPU will start to throttle down speed for compensate for temperture and you will have a problem.

You will find a database on this page: http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database

 

Here you will find that your suggested MB will be having some problem with getting hot on VRM as those are not cooled down by heatsink and probably are also working very hard to keep stable volt to your FX-8320.

 

You have three categories of chipset for FX-8320 (which is the latest CPU version on AM3+ socket). 970, 990X and then 990FX chipset. Going up to the latest chipset and MB on market for AM3+ socket will be the safest way if you look into this database from OC.

 

You can also find out more about chipset, RAM etc by google for a wiki to learn more aboout those things by yourself. There also benchmarks (google for the name of that part (or game) you want to know more about and add "benchmark" in your search terms) that you can use for video card and games to see what to expect from your own build.

 01/26/2014 05:24 AM
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Actually i have a 500 GB HDD whose model number is:

Model WDC WD50 00AAKX-001CA SCSI Disk Device

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Also a graphics card like the above mentioned or the AMD HD Radeon 7770 are GDDR5. What is its significance and how to check if the motherboard supports it???
 01/26/2014 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by: joeldcosta799 Aren't the heatsink and cooler that come with the AMD FX 8320 not enough for the system specs above??

Also recommend a Cabinet Cooler if required..

Yes the CPU cooler (HSF) that comes with the CPU is fine for cooling the stock CPU. They tend to be smaller in diameter than the aftermarket HSFs thus they need to run at a higher fan speed to provide good cooling under heavy load. Some people are sensitive to the increased noise of a high speed/high pitched OE HSF thus they opt for a quieter aftermarket HSF. The better/quieter aftermarket fans also allow overclocking for those who desire to do so - at the expense of their CPU warranty however.



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Building a reliable PC involves more than just assembling the parts. You need to be able to configure all of the BIOS settings appropriately. This can be quite involved and frustrating as it can require a lot of trial and error with stress testing. It is however often the only means to get a 100% reliable PC.

 02/19/2014 03:18 PM
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Finally how about this.....

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1)AMD 3.5 GHz AM3+ FX 8320 8 Core Piledriver Processor

2)ASUS M5A97 LE Motherboard

3)Dell S2240L 21.5 inch LED Backlit LCD Monitor 1920*1080 Resolution

4)CORSAIR CMT8GX3M2B2133C9(XMP) / Corsair Vengeance DDR3 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) PC RAM (CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R)

5)Gainward NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 2 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card

6)Corsair CX600M 600 Watts PSU

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Actually confused between AMD Radeon HD 7770 and the above mentioned graphics card. Please suggest...

 02/22/2014 02:20 AM
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If you to get into PC gaming, lose the HD 7770 and Grab at least a HD 7950 or better or you will not be very happy

You should also have at least 8 GB of RAM

Hard disks are cheap, I use a bunch of 2 TB models

I have an older Corsair TX series, the newer RM sucessor is now 80 PLUS Gold and replaces the older TX line

Never cut corners on a PSU

 

 



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