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 02/07/2014 08:20 AM
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MenaceRx
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Got some new gear and need some recommendations on a new CPU cooler.

 

Board: ASUS Crosshair V Formula Z

Chip: FX 8350

 

 



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 02/07/2014 08:39 AM
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OC plans?

If no, I'd say Scythe Shuriken

If yes, I'd go with Scythe Mugen 4 or Ninja 3 r.B

(as you can probably tell, I'm pretty satisfied with Scythe fans )



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 02/07/2014 09:52 AM
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Corsair H60 is a good choice, it mounts right to the stock AMD bracket, is quiet, powerful, and inexpensive.

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 02/07/2014 09:54 AM
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There are many excellent HSFs available. The HSF performance database at the link below will allow you to compare many of the popular HSFs. Depending on your goals and PC case room, any of the top 5 tower coolers would serve you well even for major overclocking. If you don't intend to OC your FX-8350 then any of the top ~20 HSFs should be fine.

As an example my FX-8350 uses the Aegir SD128264 HSF and it can handle 24/7 Prime95 stress testing without overheating even with the CPU running at 4.7 GHz.

There is considerable price differences in the highend tower coolers so if cost / value are concerns then look at the prices as the top 10 coolers all perform within one or two degees C so any of them will work for your purposes.

Scroll down to the AMD test results

http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm

I do NOT recommend H2O coolers as testing shows they are noisy, have poor thermal efficiency compared to a tower cooler, are a poor value and they have the very real water leak liability that can destroy your expensive PC hardware. As the heatsink performance database shows the Closed Loop Coolers (CLCs), are very poor coolers. You need at least an H100 to come close to a highend tower cooler performance. HSFs however never leak water and cause component damage like CLCs.

Even though some folks are in deep denial regarding leaks and PC damage on H2O systems and the poor thermal perfomance of CLCs and the noise issues this has all been independently documented in tests by reputable review websites all over the Net. The facts are the facts even if some people don't like the facts.

I personally do not care what cooler people use but I do care that they get accurate technical facts so they can cut thru all the marketing hype and fanboism to make a technically informed purchasing decision. Many people are mislead by advertising hype and fanboyism and they fail to seek the technical truth regarding hyped products. Only after they purchase these products do they find out about all the issues.



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Building a reliable PC involves more than just assembling the parts. You need to be able to configure all of the BIOS settings appropriately. This can be quite involved and frustrating as it can require a lot of trial and error with stress testing. It is however often the only means to get a 100% reliable PC.



Edited: 02/07/2014 at 12:22 PM by AMDforMe
 02/07/2014 10:59 AM
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Just got to say that I've had my H50 for over four years and its never leaked!  And as for noise, if your using two high rpm fans than yeah it can be noisy but the same could be said for tower HSF.

 



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Edited: 02/10/2014 at 09:52 AM by AMD Support and Game Moderator
 02/07/2014 01:24 PM
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I use a pair of These fans on my H60, even at full speed they are not audible.

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 02/07/2014 02:24 PM
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I do want to look into OC'ing the chip but I probably wont for a little bit. So which ever one I choose I want to have the option of pushing the chip to it's max performance cability that is stable and reasonable. I am not interested in Liquid cooling right now since my Rosewill case doenst have the space for the extra compenents that go with that normally.



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 02/07/2014 02:37 PM
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I take that back, I watched the install video for the H60, That looks like a winner to me. Need to check the fan measurements of my existing case.

 

The H60 will work with my case if I am reading this right. Can someone double check that? I would swap out the rear 120mm fan for the one with the Radiate and just mount it elsewhere in the case and the radiator would take the rear fans place.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147107



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AMD FX 8350
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16GB GSKILL RIPJAW 1600 DDR3
ASUS Crosshair V Formula Z Mobo
Thermaltake 750W Modular PSU

 02/07/2014 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by: black_zion Corsair H60 is a good choice, it mounts right to the stock AMD bracket, is quiet, powerful, and inexpensive.

 

What do you have your 8350 clocked at with the H60 installed and did you add a second fan to it or just the stock assembly it comes with?



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ASUS Crosshair V Formula Z Mobo
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There are plenty of good HSFs as I stated above. Pick one of the top 5 HSFs for AMD CPUs listed at Frosty Tech and you'll be fine even with overclocking - which is pretty easy to do on the Vishera CPUs.

Be advised however that overclocking does void your CPU warranty so if that's important to you, don't OC.

Most people know that it would be silly to buy a H2O cooler with the inferior performance and water leak liability. Then you'd still have to go out and spend more money on quiet fans. In the end you'd pay twice as much compared to a quality tower HSF, if you were to chose one of the inferior CLCs and you'd never escape the water leak hardware damage liability issue... and for what, so that you can say that you are naive and that you didn't do your homework? That's not very logical but it could prove to be very expensive.

It's not pretty when the PC hardware electrically shorts out and burns up. It literally could burn your house down also. But hey if that's what some people want, that's what they should buy. Life is a learning experience. Some folks need to learn the hard way.

The test results show why CLCs are a very poor choice for cooling when quality tower HSFs cost half as much and perform far better. If you have any doubts read the performance reviews at Frosty Tech or Hardware Secrets as both are reputable review sites with extensive HSF and some CLC reviews.

What you chose to buy for a CPU cooler is entirely up to you but the facts are clear for those who do their homework.

When it comes to overclocking there are some folks who are happy with 80% reliable systems and some who want a Prime95 100% reliable PC. When you OC the FX-8000 CPUs you can get to 4.5-4.6 GHz. pretty easy often at the default CPU vcore voltage but without increasing the vcore these OC's are usually only 80-90% reliable under P95 stress testing. Thus if you raise the vcore up to get 100% P95 stable at 4.6+ GHz. you'll need a good tower HSF. You can see from the test data how poor the H60 and similar CLCs compare to the top tower HSFs.

The H60 and similar H2O coolers will definitely not provide sufficient cooling for an overclocked FX-8000 series CPU when you adjust the vcore up in the ~1.43v+/- range - which is typically required for 100% P95 stability.

The H60 is so poor there are over 100 better HSFs... That's really sad. And many cost 1/2 the price of the H60.

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2705&page=5



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Building a reliable PC involves more than just assembling the parts. You need to be able to configure all of the BIOS settings appropriately. This can be quite involved and frustrating as it can require a lot of trial and error with stress testing. It is however often the only means to get a 100% reliable PC.



Edited: 02/08/2014 at 12:48 PM by AMDforMe
 02/07/2014 03:09 PM
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My 8350 is clocked at 4.6ghz at stock voltage, and my case already had a 120mm exhaust fan, and the H60 comes with one, but I replaced both for higher performance and lower acoustics.

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 02/07/2014 07:41 PM
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I have never run a liquid cooled system but I am going to give it a shot. Either the H60 or H75. Though I am leaning toward H60 and if the fan noise bothers me then swap them out for better ones and save the 20 dollar difference between the 60 and 75 model.



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Powercolor 7850 2GB/256Bit GPU
16GB GSKILL RIPJAW 1600 DDR3
ASUS Crosshair V Formula Z Mobo
Thermaltake 750W Modular PSU

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