Topic Title: I got the fx 9590 and its only at 4 ghz stock. Why?
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 04/09/2014 12:24 AM
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I have the GB 990fxa ud5 for a mobo. Anyone have a suggestions for me?

 04/09/2014 09:24 AM
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Yea, buy a motherboard which supports the FX-9590 if you want to use it. Gigabyte's CPU Support List for that motherboard

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 04/09/2014 10:14 AM
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Rev. 3 of the GA-990FXA-UD5 does support the FX-9000 series CPUs but earlier Revs. do not. You will need the correct BIOS version (FCb) also to properly recognize the FX-9590. There are only a handful of AM3+ mobos with the proper VRM design to provide the 220w power required for the FX-9000 series CPUs and not overheat the VRM circuit.

You'll also need top notch cooling for these CPUs. I recommend a top 5 HSF not water cooling due to the inerent water leak liability that can and has damaged expensive PC hardware. There are several threads here discussing the liabilities of H2O cooling and the independent test results that prove how inferior the cooling performance of closed loop coolers is compared to highend tower HSFs.

http://www.gigabyte.us/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4455

Scroll down to the AMD section to view the top 5-7 HSFs if interested.

http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm

As an example there are over (100) HSFs that out perform the Corsair H60 and not a one of them will ever leak water to damage your PC hardware. Many of these HSFs also cost less than the H60.

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2705&page=5

While H2O cooling fanbois like to argue, the fact is that H2O coolers do leak and have damaged expensive PC hardware. Independent testing shows that many of the closed loop coolers are thermally inferior to HSFs. These are the facts the fanbois don't like to accept.

My advice is that people should technically educate themselves and then use whatever makes them happy. At least they will know the H2O liabilities and cooling deficiencies up front, not after they make a purchase.



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Building a reliable PC involves more than just assembling the parts. You need to be able to configure all of the BIOS settings appropriately. This can be quite involved and frustrating as it can require a lot of trial and error with stress testing. It is however often the only means to get a 100% reliable PC.



Edited: 04/10/2014 at 10:41 AM by AMDforMe
 04/13/2014 11:25 AM
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Hey dude, it's not because someone that wants a fancy acrylic waterblock top that leaks that means every watercooling system leaks. You should stop saying such things when you don't know what you talking about. There's aluminum and acetale waterblocks that never leaks unless you don't know how to test and install.

Originally posted by: AMDforMe

 

You'll also need top notch cooling for these CPUs. I recommend a top 5 HSF not water cooling due to the inerent water leak liability that can and has damaged expensive PC hardware.

 

 04/14/2014 09:47 AM
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Not to mention all of the liquid coolers listed at the top, which are THE best: Coolermaster Nepton 280L , Coolermaster Nepton 140XL, Coolermaster Seidon 240M, Silverstone Tundra TD02, Coolermaster Glacer 240L, NXZT Kraken X60.

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 04/14/2014 11:54 AM
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Scroll down to the AMD section to view the top 5-7 HSFs if interested.

 

http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm

 

As an example there are over (100) HSFs that out perform the Corsair H60 and not a one of them will ever leak water to damage your PC hardware. Many of these HSFs also cost less than the H60.

 

 

 

You did notice that there was three H20 coolers that were in between one and two on your list right



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 04/14/2014 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by: mrfla Hey dude, it's not because someone that wants a fancy acrylic waterblock top that leaks that means every watercooling system leaks. You should stop saying such things when you don't know what you talking about. There's aluminum and acetale waterblocks that never leaks unless you don't know how to test and install.
Originally posted by: AMDforMe

 

You'll also need top notch cooling for these CPUs. I recommend a top 5 HSF not water cooling due to the inerent water leak liability that can and has damaged expensive PC hardware.

 

I never said every H2O cooler leaks though eventually most do but the fanbois pretend none of them leak. They also pretend that there is a legitimate reason to use an H20 cooler even with the water leak liability. They are completely oblivious to the fact that many of the closed loop coolers are thermally inefficient and totally inferior to a less expensive HSF that never leaks water.

Denial is futile because the objective scientific tests prove how thermally inferior the CLCs are. Paying more for an inferior cooling system and injecting a serious water-leak liability into a PC at the same time is akin to the folks who bought into the pet rock fad. Gullible and technically challenged folks buy these coolers. The facts don't lie but fanbois do.

These threads are good because it alerts PC enthusiasts to the facts they won't get from marketing hype and fanbois. Anyone interested in a CLC should read some of the threads at the Corsair website from customers who have had 2-3 or more Corsair H series coolers that failed. They should also read the threads about Corsair claiming to know the failure statistics but being unwilling to share those statistics. If the failure rate on CLCs is so good why isn't the marekting dept. raving about them?



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Building a reliable PC involves more than just assembling the parts. You need to be able to configure all of the BIOS settings appropriately. This can be quite involved and frustrating as it can require a lot of trial and error with stress testing. It is however often the only means to get a 100% reliable PC.



Edited: 04/14/2014 at 12:45 PM by AMDforMe
 04/14/2014 05:17 PM
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Actually if you look at the AMD list, ALL the top performing Coolers are H20...

 

 

So again tell us how we are wrong in recommending a CLC...

 

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 04/15/2014 07:41 PM
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It is the builder's responsibility to minimize potential risks of all kinds when designing and correctly executing the build.  Where do most water cooler leaks occur?  Radiator.  Place it where coolant would not generally contact mb or gpus.  Vertically against drive cages is good or outside case. 

Never leave an operating high-end build unattended and risks of all sorts are likely to be minimal.



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 04/16/2014 12:07 AM
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Originally posted by: AMDforMe Denial is the safe harbor for the technically challenged. They can't even understand objective cooler test data nor do they understand the English language. Their belief is that if they argue long enough reality will change but it never does.

It's really a sad state of affairs and is somewhat reflective of the education system.

 

We understand the data quite well... YOUR data...  No one is saying you can't have your point of view...  but the fear you try to install in others is just plain wrong. 

Is there a very very slight chance a CLC will leak, YES.  Are there CLC's that do not perform as well as some of the top HSF's, YES.  Is H2O cooling inferior to Air cooling, NO!

As an example, take my CLC (H80i)....  it ranks 9th on max performance AND 9th on Noise Level with Quiet settings (the top 4 being fanless, means it really ranks 5th for noise), if quiet is something you value...  and is about the same price as any of it's competition.  I personally value silence, and also want to have the ability to crank up the cooling power to a top rank cooler with just a simple profile change.  I suggest you look deeper into your own stats.

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CPU: AMD FX-8350.||.Cooler: Corsair H80i
MB: Gigabyte 990FXA-UD7.||.RAM: 8 GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3 2000MHz (7-10-8-27-1T)
Case: CoolerMaster HAF 932.||.PSU: Corsair HX750
GPU:Asus R9 270X DirectCU II TOP.||.Audio: Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro w/ Logitech Z-5300e (5.1, 280W-RMS)
System Drive: 2xSamsung 840 Pro 128GB RAID0.||.Working Drive: 2xMushkin Chronos 60GB RAID0



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QB...if you value silence, upgrade your 80i with a Cougar, Swiftech white or two PWM...more airflow and much quieter. 



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AMDforMe...

RESULTS are the reward for the technically competent.



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Denial is the safe harbor for the technically challenged. They can't even understand objective cooler test data nor do they understand the English language. Their belief is that if they argue long enough reality will change but it never does.

It's really a sad state of affairs and is somewhat reflective of the education system.



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Building a reliable PC involves more than just assembling the parts. You need to be able to configure all of the BIOS settings appropriately. This can be quite involved and frustrating as it can require a lot of trial and error with stress testing. It is however often the only means to get a 100% reliable PC.



Edited: 04/16/2014 at 02:16 AM by AMDforMe
 04/16/2014 09:35 AM
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Oh, so if you argue until you're as blue in the face as your signature that closed loop liquid coolers will always leak and destroy your entire system, that Corsair will not replace all hardware damaged due to a leak, and that all cases have the required width (>8.5") and can easily fit a tower style air cooler without blocking any RAM slots then it will become true?

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 04/21/2014 09:00 AM
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http://hardcore-games.azurewebsites.net/wp/hw/tim.php

TIM matters

 



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As testing by numerous reviewers has shown any of the top 25+ TIMs produces temps within 2C of each other so use what TIM makes you happy. There is no huge difference in performance for any of the popular TIMs.

You want the thinnest film of TIM possible as TIM is a thermal barrier in comparison to metal-to-metal contact of the heatsink and heat spreader.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermal-Compound-Roundup-February-2012/1490/5



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Building a reliable PC involves more than just assembling the parts. You need to be able to configure all of the BIOS settings appropriately. This can be quite involved and frustrating as it can require a lot of trial and error with stress testing. It is however often the only means to get a 100% reliable PC.

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Thermal Paste does not matter as much as you think 3.5°C across 34 TIMs is not a huge spread, your cooler matters more than the paste. Heck, with liquid cooling even cheap thermal tape barely does worse than the more expensive options.

Also: How to apply TIM

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