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 04/21/2014 12:53 PM
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Please help. fan is seriously noisy when playing online games.

For possible BIOS Setting kindly provide values. thanx is advance.

dxdiag:

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System Information

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Time of this report: 4/22/2014, 00:49:35

       Machine name: GOD-PC

   Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_rtm.101119-1850)

           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)

System Manufacturer: MSI

       System Model: MS-7641

               BIOS: Default System BIOS

          Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.4GHz

             Memory: 8192MB RAM

Available OS Memory: 8192MB RAM

          Page File: 3713MB used, 24475MB available

        Windows Dir: C:\Windows

    DirectX Version: DirectX 11

DX Setup Parameters: Not found

   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI

 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)

    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled

     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

 



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 04/21/2014 01:00 PM
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What does dxdiag have to do with a noisy fan?

It doesnt say what the noise is or sounds like.

If you said what it sounds like it might be better for some one else to suggest a fix.

Does it sound like a grinder,like a jet plane?

 



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 04/21/2014 01:39 PM
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If you're using the OE hintsink/fan they run at a higher speed than an aftermarket HSF that uses a larger diameter fan. Many newer BIOS allow you to adjust the HSF speed. There are  also applets like Speed Fan that will allow you to adjust the HSF speed.

When lowering the fan speed be sure that your CPU does not go above ~55C "internal core temp" (as measured by the applet Core Temp or similar), under full load such as in intense video games or whatever places the max load on your CPU.

FYI - "CPU Temp" is NOT the internal core temp and "CPU Temp" often runs 10C or more higher than the true "internal core temp" as measured by the applet Core Temp.



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Originally posted by: AMDforMe If you're using the OE hintsink/fan they run at a higher speed than an aftermarket HSF that uses a larger diameter fan. Many newer BIOS allow you to adjust the HSF speed. There are  also applets like Speed Fan that will allow you to adjust the HSF speed.

 

When lowering the fan speed be sure that your CPU does not go above ~55C "internal core temp" (as measured by the applet Core Temp or similar), under full load such as in intense video games or whatever places the max load on your CPU.

 

FYI - "CPU Temp" is NOT the internal core temp and "CPU Temp" often runs 10C or more higher than the true "internal core temp" as measured by the applet Core Temp.

 

Thank you very much for the informative response. Im pretty new with speed fan and I really dont know how to use it though. And yes I am using the OE heatsink/fan. Can you suggest a cheap one for me?. THnx! And oh, I forgot to mention that whenever I put the power setting to power saver mode, it seems that it is not as noisy as a jetplane.

 04/21/2014 10:12 PM
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I assume they mean the fan on their GPU, given the big dxdiag dump... Or they're just very confused...

Either way...If this is a new development, and it wasn't always noisy, then there's probably some gunk in there that needs cleaning.  Otherwise, it's probably just a noisy fan.  Not much a person can do about that other than replace it with a fan that's less obnoxious.



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 04/21/2014 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by: Mime I assume they mean the fan on their GPU, given the big dxdiag dump... Or they're just very confused...

 

Either way...If this is a new development, and it wasn't always noisy, then there's probably some gunk in there that needs cleaning.  Otherwise, it's probably just a noisy fan.  Not much a person can do about that other than replace it with a fan that's less obnoxious.

 

 

Im really sorry bout the dxdiag. anyway I think it's more on the power management itself. The heat sink and fan are somehow clean. 

 

 04/22/2014 12:28 AM
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Be sure the fan is not contacting the shroud on the video card as it heats up and expands a bit.



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 04/22/2014 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by: st4rc04t
Originally posted by: AMDforMe If you're using the OE hintsink/fan they run at a higher speed than an aftermarket HSF that uses a larger diameter fan. Many newer BIOS allow you to adjust the HSF speed. There are  also applets like Speed Fan that will allow you to adjust the HSF speed.

 

When lowering the fan speed be sure that your CPU does not go above ~55C "internal core temp" (as measured by the applet Core Temp or similar), under full load such as in intense video games or whatever places the max load on your CPU.

 

FYI - "CPU Temp" is NOT the internal core temp and "CPU Temp" often runs 10C or more higher than the true "internal core temp" as measured by the applet Core Temp.

Thank you very much for the informative response. Im pretty new with speed fan and I really dont know how to use it though. And yes I am using the OE heatsink/fan. Can you suggest a cheap one for me?. THnx! And oh, I forgot to mention that whenever I put the power setting to power saver mode, it seems that it is not as noisy as a jetplane.

There are many good, relatively inexpensive aftermarket HSFs to choose from. The Coolermaster Hyper 212 series is probably the most popular but you can see from the database how the various HSFs perform, their approximate cost, how they mount, etc.

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2655&page=4



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Since the OP vaguely referenced the noise actually was from the cpu fan; best advice would be to upgrade to a liquid cooler as they are much quieter and have better cooling potential.  Replacing with another air based system is not the best solution.



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 04/22/2014 12:58 PM
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No unfortunately using a H2O CLC cooler which has been independently confirmed in objective scientific testing to be nosier, have LOWER thermal cooling capacity and costing more would be a technically clueless decision as reported with references in various threads in this and every other PC hardware forum on the Net.

Anyone considering H2O cooling should perform due diligence and not be duped by fanbois and marketing hype. Introducing a water leak liability into a PC when a HSF provides superior performance, costs less and never leaks water is technically ignorant.

H2O coolers can and do leak. H2O coolers have damaged expensive PC hardware. Installing an inferior CLC cooler is foolhardy. Closed Loop Coolers (CLCs), are a fad just like pet rocks and they make as much sense technically as pet rocks because they are inferior, can leak water that can short circuit and have actually damaged expensive PC hardware.

Those are the facts that H2O/CLC fanbois don't like. People should technically educate themselves and decide what works for them.



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UcouldBrong, You had to poke the bear didn't ya lol



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AMDforMe lives in fear, but we don't need to.  And as such, we should not shy away from recommending HW that has a very good chance of helping out the OP.  Let him rant and rave, it's all good.

 

Here is some very good reading for people to truly get informed:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/277130-29-read-first-watercooling-sticky#3718889

 

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p.s. His HSF list that he so loves to point to, is 2 years old...  funny how he stopped pointing to the Top 5 list from the same site once we showed that ALL the Top coolers are CLC's 



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Originally posted by: Slayerx UcouldBrong, You had to poke the bear didn't ya lol

 

Ha ha ha...thought the VERY same thing as soon as I read the reply!

How did he find out about my pet rock??



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He also never points out that Corsair has a 5 year warranty on their coolers, and if it leaks and damages other components during that time, they will replace (or compensate) you for them as well. Really the worst thing you have to worry about with closed loop liquid coolers is a pump failure, and the chances of that aren't even that high.

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The H20 fanbois are in denial and can't handle reality. Unfortunately for them denial doesn't change reality.



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One day a mod is going to finally put a stop to AMDforMe's liquid doomsday rants...

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Hi yes Corsair and Thermal Take will help you out if there coolers leak but. they will only give you current market value for your parts if those parts are out of date and you can not buy them anymore at Corsairs suggested value you are stuck putting in more money again to build a new rig.



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Originally posted by: black_zion One day a mod is going to finally put a stop to AMDforMe's liquid doomsday rants...

I thought about it, but every forum needs it's own local flavor, right?  They'll be like that homeless guy on the corner who has a pet rock in one hand, and a sock monkey in the other screaming about how they know the gateway to heaven.  Maybe a little annoying, but also strangely awesome and totally harmless.

I figure I should leave it to the rest of you to decide when it becomes more than a little annoying.  If it really bugs you, let one of us know.



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We can ALL learn something by a well presented argument.



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Key words "well presented".

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