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 04/25/2014 11:03 PM
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Some of you may think this is a stupid question, and maybe I'm in denial, but is the FX Series the last set of high end "enthusiasts" cpus from AMD? Have they come out and specifically stated this? For almost 2 years now I've been hearing they're just going to focus on APUs and while there is some exciting stuff going on in that area, I'm really hoping everything I heard is a lie and they're going to develop a successor to the FX line. Go ahead and call me an idiot but I want to know if they've explicitly said no more enthusiast CPUs. 

 04/25/2014 11:39 PM
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 04/25/2014 11:45 PM
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From everything I've seen they've said things that could be interpreted as meaning no more enthusiast cpus, but haven't outright stated it. 

 04/26/2014 11:20 AM
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AMD fully plans to release new discrete desktop CPUs delivering a big performance improvement over the current Vishera (FX) models. Unfortunately these are not likely to arrive until late '15 or into '16. So until then they have nothing significant to offer to those looking for a better discrete desktop CPU. What you will get next time will surprise and please most people based on what I have been told - which eliminates the B.S. marketing hype from the discussion.

Unfortunately AMD really shot themselves in the foot by not having a quality successor to Vishera for release last Fall. AMD's biggest hurdle has always been execution. They have some great engineering but getting the product from R&D into customer's hands is where they have major issues.



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 04/26/2014 12:07 PM
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Thanks for the insight...did...not....know....that!



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 04/26/2014 12:50 PM
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No, AMD's problem is being to far ahead of the market. Home applications are to per-clock and per-core dependent to take advantage of the Bulldozer architecture, unlike server and HPC applications which scale very well to hundreds of compute cores. Fortunately compute heavy programs are GPU assisted or completely based, and DirectX 12 (and Mantle) will remove the reliance of a ultra fast processor, aided by the fact that consoles are now traditional x86/x64 based so sloppy console ports taking a 5ghz i7 will be a thing of the past.

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 05/19/2014 09:05 AM
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Here's some interesting reading regarding the future of AMD CPUs.

http://techreport.com/review/26418/amd-reveals-k12-new-arm-and-x86-cores-are-coming



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 05/19/2014 04:03 PM
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At the same time, AMD is building a brand-new, x86-compatible CPU core that will serve to replace Bulldozer and its lineage.

I'm not quite sure whether the biggest news here is the announcement of a new high-end x86 architecture from AMD or the fact that ARMv8 is getting the same treatment.

Since we're talking about a replacement for Bulldozer, this is an entirely different class of beast from the "Puma+" and Cortex-A57 cores in the first SkyBridge parts. AMD's execs noted that these are high-frequency, high-performance CPU cores that will span the range from laptops to desktops to servers—and not just "microservers." We don't know exactly how big they'll be compared to Bulldozer or, say, Haswell. The smartest play might be to aim for something a little smaller than those cores, but that's the basic class of performance they're undoubtedly meant to achieve. AMD is returning to its roots, aiming to produce a best-in-class big core.

 

Promising, but I'll believe it when i see it...



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 05/19/2014 04:23 PM
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Hardware is only as good as the software which runs it.

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 05/19/2014 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by: AMDforMe What you will get next time will surprise and please most people based on what I have been told -

 

By who?..your barber!



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 05/20/2014 12:22 AM
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AMD made it clear years ago that APUs is where the future lies. It may simply mean that they don't have the money to develop both CPUs and APUs now. They may also know that they may not even survive doing that. Let us just hope that they succeed at least in that direction. If they do maybe there will a successor to the FX at some point.



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 05/20/2014 11:44 AM
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AMD has made it clear that they will deliver both discrete desktop CPUs and APUs. APUs however are where 90+ % of the market will be in five years because APU performance will cover all PC segments from entry level to the very top levels that are currently only possible with a discrete CPU and GPU combo.

The advantages to APUs that cover the full spectrum of PC needs is that:

1. They cost less than a discrete CPU/GPU combo

2. They can or will perform as good or better than a discrete combo

3. APUs consume less energy than a discrete combo



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 06/02/2014 09:27 PM
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I find the idea of cluster multithreading to be a genius idea. Though a genius idea, it is far to ahead of it's time right now. I'd say that within about 4 years the pile driver architecture would be really good. The reason for this would be the fact that ram is much bigger, faster and lighter. Now, I spent like all day researching the tar.bz of many websites for my new computer the vishera 8320 cpu, and found something interesting. The bulldozer architecture has like 16 alus inside of it shared by the cache system. Well, one thing I find interesting is that it is actually backwards compatible with 32 bit systems due to the 32 bit alus and agus. I am actually wondering if a pile driver cpu with 4 gigabytes of ram would be faster on a 32 bit os rather than a 64 bit os. Another option that I could see in the future is amd completely eliminating the need for any type "oh is it 32 bit or 64 bit or 128 bit?" It's all the above. I think a hybrid cpu would be an excellent name for it though .

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