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 06/22/2014 12:20 PM
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I dont know what to do.

When idle the temps are 37°/98F - 40°/104F, in-game (BF4) the temps goes to 68°/154F - 70°/158F. I think its to high temp for a core whitout OC

Its normal in this processor? any solution?

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Screen when idle

 

Screen with prime95 running (75°/167F)

 

Playing bf4 69°/156F(sorry for the quality of the image)



Edited: 06/22/2014 at 12:42 PM by pigu_6
 06/22/2014 02:16 PM
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What CPU cooler are you using? Stock? If so try a good aftermarket cooler,be it Air or a Closed loop water cooler.

Whats your ambient air temps where you are?My 1100T is idling at 25'C,but never goes over 40'C while gaming(BF4)using a Corsair H100i.

I have used mainly the Zalman CNPS9900's which are quiet and cool great.However for the last 5 years I've been using the CLC's which are even better

I have not used a stock cooler in probably 10 years,there junk.



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Edited: 06/22/2014 at 02:29 PM by Earnhardt
 06/22/2014 02:34 PM
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I assume you live in Mexico or the surrounding area, and have a warm summer climate (judging by the fact you said Gabo, which is detected as Spanish in the translator), so upgrading to a closed loop liquid cooler would be of great benefit.

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 06/22/2014 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by: black_zion I assume you live in Mexico or the surrounding area, and have a warm summer climate (judging by the fact you said Gabo, which is detected as Spanish in the translator), so upgrading to a closed loop liquid cooler would be of great benefit.

Wait for it......



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 06/22/2014 04:37 PM
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Actually your FX-8350 could be running at normal temps. "CPU temp" is not actually the CPU internal CORE TEMP. You need to be reading the internal CORE TEMP. All 8-core FX CPUs run hotter because they have 8 cores instead of 4 or 6 cores. AMD lists the max operating internal CORE TEMPS in Celsius and for your CPU it is 61C under max load. "CPU temp" can read 10C-25C higher than the internal CORE TEMP so you should ignore this reading.

I recommend that people use the applet Core Temp as it is the most accurate IME. On FX processors the temps are only close to accurate in the 40C-70C range per AMD. Idle temps do not matter and tend to be very inaccurate on the FX series CPUs.

The OE FX-8350 cooler is just fine for normal ambient temps. If you have above 90 F temps all the time and want to improve cooling there are many relatively inexpensive HSFs but for most people this is unnecessary. Some folks in this forum constantly promote liquid coolers because they are technically challenged and haven't done their homework. If you are cosidering a liquid cooler go to the Corsair forum and read firsthand user experiences with the multiple failures, leak damage, etc. There is no logical reason to install a closed loop cooler. People who buy these closed loop liquid coolers are in to "fads" just like folks who bought "pet rocks"...

There are many threads here corrupted with false information from the liquid cooler crowd who has demonstrated they don't understand the objective, scientific CPU cooler data which shows how inferior CLCs are. You'll be able to tell who these folks are as they poison every thread even ones that are not about cooling. These people also ignore the very real, documented water-leak liability of using a liquid cooler. Since they can't change these realities they prefer to attack me hoping this will change reality, but it never does.

Enjoy your FX-8350. It appears to running normal. My FX-8350 is overclocked to 4.6 GHz. using an Xigmatek Aegir SD128264 and it runs Prime 95 for 25 hours straight with no overheating and no water leaks to damage my PC hardware.



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Edited: 06/22/2014 at 04:49 PM by AMDforMe
 06/22/2014 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by: Earnhardt What CPU cooler are you using? Stock? If so try a good aftermarket cooler,be it Air or a Closed loop water cooler.

 

Whats your ambient air temps where you are?My 1100T is idling at 25'C,but never goes over 40'C while gaming(BF4)using a Corsair H100i.

 

I have used mainly the Zalman CNPS9900's which are quiet and cool great.However for the last 5 years I've been using the CLC's which are even better

 

I have not used a stock cooler in probably 10 years,there junk.

 

The ambient temps its 10C-20C and the CPU cooler is STOCK, but im looking for Hyper212 EVO to reduce the temps.

 

Originally posted by: black_zion I assume you live in Mexico or the surrounding area, and have a warm summer climate (judging by the fact you said Gabo, which is detected as Spanish in the translator), so upgrading to a closed loop liquid cooler would be of great benefit.

Im from Argentine, we are in winter right now.(sorry for GABO , is a contraction used here)

 

Originally posted by: AMDforMe Actually your FX-8350 could be running at normal temps. "CPU temp" is not actually the CPU internal CORE TEMP. You need to be reading the internal CORE TEMP. All 8-core FX CPUs run hotter because they have 8 cores instead of 4 or 6 cores. AMD lists the max operating internal CORE TEMPS in Celsius and for your CPU it is 61C under max load. "CPU temp" can read 10C-25C higher than the internal CORE TEMP so you should ignore this reading.

 

I recommend that people use the applet Core Temp as it is the most accurate IME. On FX processors the temps are only close to accurate in the 40C-70C range per AMD. Idle temps do not matter and tend to be very inaccurate on the FX series CPUs.

 

The OE FX-8350 cooler is just fine for normal ambient temps. If you have above 90 F temps all the time and want to improve cooling there are many relatively inexpensive HSFs but for most people this is unnecessary. Some folks in this forum constantly promote liquid coolers because they are technically challenged and haven't done their homework. If you are cosidering a liquid cooler go to the Corsair forum and read firsthand user experiences with the multiple failures, leak damage, etc. There is no logical reason to install a closed loop cooler. People who buy these closed loop liquid coolers are in to "fads" just like folks who bought "pet rocks"...

 

There are many threads here corrupted with false information from the liquid cooler crowd who has demonstrated they don't understand the objective, scientific CPU cooler data which shows how inferior CLCs are. You'll be able to tell who these folks are as they poison every thread even ones that are not about cooling. These people also ignore the very real, documented water-leak liability of using a liquid cooler. Since they can't change these realities they prefer to attack me hoping this will change reality, but it never does.

 

Enjoy your FX-8350. It appears to running normal. My FX-8350 is overclocked to 4.6 GHz. using an Xigmatek Aegir SD128264 and it runs Prime 95 for 25 hours straight with no overheating and no water leaks to damage my PC hardware.

 

Which program is reliable for temps messure of core?

 

Thx for all

 06/22/2014 05:28 PM
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Any program which can read core temps will be fine. I use AIDA64, but many people use Coretemp.

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 06/22/2014 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by: AMDforMe Actually your FX-8350 could be running at normal temps. "CPU temp" is not actually the CPU internal CORE TEMP. You need to be reading the internal CORE TEMP. All 8-core FX CPUs run hotter because they have 8 cores instead of 4 or 6 cores. AMD lists the max operating internal CORE TEMPS in Celsius and for your CPU it is 61C under max load. "CPU temp" can read 10C-25C higher than the internal CORE TEMP so you should ignore this reading.

 

I recommend that people use the applet Core Temp as it is the most accurate IME. On FX processors the temps are only close to accurate in the 40C-70C range per AMD. Idle temps do not matter and tend to be very inaccurate on the FX series CPUs.

 

The OE FX-8350 cooler is just fine for normal ambient temps. If you have above 90 F temps all the time and want to improve cooling there are many relatively inexpensive HSFs but for most people this is unnecessary. Some folks in this forum constantly promote liquid coolers because they are technically challenged and haven't done their homework. If you are cosidering a liquid cooler go to the Corsair forum and read firsthand user experiences with the multiple failures, leak damage, etc. There is no logical reason to install a closed loop cooler. People who buy these closed loop liquid coolers are in to "fads" just like folks who bought "pet rocks"...

 

There are many threads here corrupted with false information from the liquid cooler crowd who has demonstrated they don't understand the objective, scientific CPU cooler data which shows how inferior CLCs are. You'll be able to tell who these folks are as they poison every thread even ones that are not about cooling. These people also ignore the very real, documented water-leak liability of using a liquid cooler. Since they can't change these realities they prefer to attack me hoping this will change reality, but it never does.

 

Enjoy your FX-8350. It appears to running normal. My FX-8350 is overclocked to 4.6 GHz. using an Xigmatek Aegir SD128264 and it runs Prime 95 for 25 hours straight with no overheating and no water leaks to damage my PC hardware.

 

Originally posted by: Earnhardt
Originally posted by: black_zion I assume you live in Mexico or the surrounding area, and have a warm summer climate (judging by the fact you said Gabo, which is detected as Spanish in the translator), so upgrading to a closed loop liquid cooler would be of great benefit.

 

Wait for it......

 

 

And here he is!

I've been to the Corsair forums,and there's maybe 5 on there,Outta how many thousands.

still Waiting for your " Independent objective, scientific testing " Links

Originally posted by: Earnhardt
Originally posted by: AMDforMe

 

Whatever you do don't install an inferior, leak prone close loop cooler as constantly promoted by technically challenged people in this forum. Independent objective, scientific testing by reputable websites show how inferior these liquid coolers are compared to a quality tower HSF such as the

 


SO POST THE LINKS! You keep linking the same outdated one in all your posts.


Here's the Updated one you forgot about.


http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2723&page=4




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Edited: 06/22/2014 at 06:14 PM by Earnhardt
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Originally posted by: black_zion Any program which can read core temps will be fine. I use AIDA64, but many people use Coretemp.

 

Here the results, all cores goes to 68C, but i have a doubt....

Viewing the coretemp  the freq of the cores raise up to 4333.42mhz, when the stock is 4000mhz, im dont doing OC.

Downgrading the freq can be the solution of the overheating?

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No, that's fine. Just upgrade your cooling.

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 06/23/2014 11:14 PM
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Originally posted by: black_zion No, that's fine. Just upgrade your cooling.

OK, thx. 

Well the last 2 questions.

Coolermaster 212+ or Corsair h60(WC)?

Booth of them are compatibles/fits in a thermaltake coomander ms-i chase?

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With the prices the way they are, I'd spend the extra $15 over the H60 and get the H80i. It has a thicker radiator, and includes a second 120mm fan, which translates to better cooling. Overclocked mine tops out at between 56-58°C under Prime95 depending on the season, the H80i shouldn't have any issue getting it into the 50-53°C range. The Corsair H80i and below are compatible because the plate is only about as tall as your RAM, and the radiator is only as big as the fans. That case is 7.9" in width (from panel to panel, not motherboard to panel), while the Coolermaster 212+ is 6.25" tall. It also doesn't cool as well as the H60 and H80i.

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Edited: 06/23/2014 at 11:41 PM by black_zion
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I can confirm the H80i is a solid investment.

 

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 06/25/2014 03:29 AM
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Pigu_6

I'd recommend Core Temp to be sure that you are getting proper internal temps for your CPU under load. Many software programs do NOT provide a correct internal core temp on the FX processors.

The Hyper 212 EVO is a very popular and capable heatsink/fan. You'll notice that the 212 EVO cools better than the Corsair H50/H60 and nearly the same as the H80 while costing much lessThe 212 EVO never leaks coolant to damage your PC as the numerous Corsair H -series coolers have been documented to do.

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2655&page=4

By now you've probably noticed who the CLC fanbois in this forum are... They want you to make the same mistake they made in picking an inferior cooler.

The last thing any technically educated PC enthusiasts would want is an inferior liquid cooler that cost more, has poor cooling and has a documented coolant-leak liability. See the Corsair forums for firsthand experiences with inferior Corsair H series coolers.

 



Edited: 06/25/2014 at 03:37 AM by AMD4ME
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Originally posted by: AMD4ME Pigu_6

 

I'd recommend Core Temp to be sure that you are getting proper internal temps for your CPU under load. Many software programs do NOT provide a correct internal core temp on the FX processors.

 

The Hyper 212 EVO is a very popular and capable heatsink/fan. You'll notice that the 212 EVO cools better than the Corsair H50/H60 and nearly the same as the H80 while costing much lessThe 212 EVO never leaks coolant to damage your PC as the numerous Corsair H -series coolers have been documented to do.

 

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2655&page=4

 

By now you've probably noticed who the CLC fanbois in this forum are... They want you to make the same mistake they made in picking an inferior cooler.

 

The last thing any technically educated PC enthusiasts would want is an inferior liquid cooler that cost more, has poor cooling and has a documented coolant-leak liability. See the Corsair forums for firsthand experiences with inferior Corsair H series coolers.

 

 

 

 

still Waiting for your " Independent objective, scientific testing " Links



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Where is this documentation of closed loop's leaking that you speak of?  And how many accounts do you really need to post this.  You have used 2 different accounts on this thread alone.



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