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 07/12/2014 08:28 AM
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Hi AMD, hope, someone from online PR marketing is focusing for forums. 

I hope with many others enthusiast we will see in 2015/16 some new performance desktop. I dont mean APU, but really higher product against Intel core i7 "middle segment LGA11xx". Realy hope Keller team working OK with support from AMD, because this segment makes sesne in many next years (looking at VIA, they have good products, but all is lowend and they have maybe 1% of sales?). Gaming is important and performance CPU too. The same for rendering and work.

So dont give up this segment! Its still better to have 80% of performance competition than to have nothing.



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 07/12/2014 12:46 PM
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The problem is they only have 80% of the performance if the application can take advantage of all integer cores, which many non server, non HPC, and non professional programs cannot. Their instruction per clock capability is only 1/4 to, at best, 1/3, of Intel, and most desktop applications depend on IPC, not multithreading.

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 07/12/2014 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by: black_zion The problem is they only have 80% of the performance if the application can take advantage of all integer cores, which many non server, non HPC, and non professional programs cannot. Their instruction per clock capability is only 1/4 to, at best, 1/3, of Intel, and most desktop applications depend on IPC, not multithreading.

You're entitled to your opinion but your statement is COMPLETE nonsense and not even close to reality. IPC is not the end all or be all of computer performance, contrary to the mis-information disseminated by the technically challenged.

BTW, AMD has NOT given up on performance oritented desktop CPUs so we can end the debate right now.

 07/12/2014 04:33 PM
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Troll detected. And yes, IPC is everything. And you hardly have room to talk, spreading misinformation in every thread relating to liquid cooling.

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 07/12/2014 08:06 PM
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IPC is improtant, yes, but some performance index is multithread effectivity.

Example Core i7 3rd/4th generation. IPC is awesome for one core, 4c/8t CPU has effectivity lower than example 4CU/8C in FX. But of course, IPC in FX is maybe 65-70% of Intel, so overall cant win (at the similar clocks).

It will be good, if AMDwill  working at new CPU with IPC around 85-90% of Intel and with the same multicore effectivity.

 

 



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 07/12/2014 09:12 PM
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The problem is, like I said, the lack of non professional, non server, and non HPC programs which take advantage of multiple cores effectively, not to mention the lesser programming quality. In those areas an Opteron can keep pace with a Xeon, trading lower efficiency for a much lower price tag (and according to some programmers, an easier programming language), but outside those 3 markets, an FX cannot keep pace with an i7 (and even an i5 in some cases) without twice the clock rate.

The new architecture is supposed to bring SMT which may help in the cases of weakly multithreaded programs, but until AMD gets their IPC numbers up there, they're going to be about as efficient as the Pentagon (which, as you remember, ordered the destruction of billions of dollars in perfectly fine ammunition because the military branches cannot communicate with each other on inventory).

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 07/12/2014 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by: AMD4ME

 

You're entitled to your opinion but your statement is COMPLETE nonsense and not even close to reality. IPC is not the end all or be all of computer performance, contrary to the mis-information disseminated by the technically challenged.

 

BTW, AMD has NOT given up on performance oritented desktop CPUs so we can end the debate right now.

 

There's Mrs "I'm on my second account because they banned the other for spreading misinformation on these forums"

Wassup!

 

Originally posted by: AMD4ME

 


BTW, AMD has NOT given up on performance oritented desktop CPUs so we can end the debate right now.


 

Links Please!



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 07/12/2014 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by: Earnhardt

 

 

 

BTW, AMD has NOT given up on performance oritented desktop CPUs so we can end the debate right now.

 

 

 

 

There's Mrs "I'm on my second account because they banned the other for spreading misinformation on these forums"

 

Wassup!

 

 

 

Originally posted by: AMD4ME

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BTW, AMD has NOT given up on performance oritented desktop CPUs so we can end the debate right now.

 

 

 

 

 

Links Please!

 

 

As if to substantiate that you are technically clueless... I have two accts. for a specific reason and both are active. I have never been banned and unlike you and a few fanbois, I do not post up false information.

And as I already posted above AMD has not given up on performance CPUs. That is based on my direct conversation with the folks at AMD who actually make the decisions on what AMD will and won't produce. Don't expect to read about these new CPUs for at least 6 months.

You and the other technically and socially challenged people here look like fools when you post up such ignorance. You folks seem to like to wear your ignorance as a badge of honor. Being technically challenged doesn't make you right, it just makes you technically challenged. The false and disingenuous info. that a few of you continually post here in addition to the slurs is a true disservice to all AMD owners. Insulting me doesn't change reality one bit.

 



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 07/12/2014 11:33 PM
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Yup, sure enough two accts. and not banned contrary to what the clueless stated.



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 07/13/2014 10:35 AM
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And yet again more talk and zero proof.

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 07/13/2014 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by: AMD4ME
Originally posted by: Earnhardt

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BTW, AMD has NOT given up on performance oritented desktop CPUs so we can end the debate right now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's Mrs "I'm on my second account because they banned the other for spreading misinformation on these forums"

 

 

 

 

 

Wassup!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Originally posted by: AMD4ME

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BTW, AMD has NOT given up on performance oritented desktop CPUs so we can end the debate right now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Links Please!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As if to substantiate that you are technically clueless... I have two accts. for a specific reason and both are active. I have never been banned and unlike you and a few fanbois, I do not post up false information.

 

And as I already posted above AMD has not given up on performance CPUs. That is based on my direct conversation with the folks at AMD who actually make the decisions on what AMD will and won't produce. Don't expect to read about these new CPUs for at least 6 months.

 

You and the other technically and socially challenged people here look like fools when you post up such ignorance. You folks seem to like to wear your ignorance as a badge of honor. Being technically challenged doesn't make you right, it just makes you technically challenged. The false and disingenuous info. that a few of you continually post here in addition to the slurs is a true disservice to all AMD owners. Insulting me doesn't change reality one bit.

 

 

 

"is based on my direct conversation with the folks at AMD who actually make the decisions on what AMD will and won't produce"

That is laughable at best!

As are your technical abilities! But hey,keep up the copy and paste answers,they are entertaining.



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 07/13/2014 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by: AMDforMe Yup, sure enough two accts. and not banned contrary to what the clueless stated.

 

Now I get it,the "new" account is your super agent account..Shh,I wont tell anyone its you..



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 07/14/2014 11:51 AM
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WoW I haven't seen a war like this since the old processor forum



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 07/14/2014 06:27 PM
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Not realy a war, just us putting AMDforMe/AMD4ME in his/her place for months now...  pull up any thread where H2O cooling is mentioned even in the slightest...  it's acually quite comical

 

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Could start him up here. It's easy:

*ahem* LIQUID COOLING IS SUPERIOR TO AIR COOLING.

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Okay, let's have a time out and be done with these constant battles. And that applies to almost everyone who posted on this thread.

 



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