 12/07/2012 07:08 PM
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DroidXY Peon

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When you try to use a single SSD with an HDD raid (or raid in general), the performance of the SSD is really bad. I have this problem and found many others with this problem.
Is there any statement if its a firmware problem or a controller problem?
Thanks!
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 12/07/2012 07:21 PM
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Mime Forum Moderator

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I'm not sure exactly what you mean... but if you're mushing it all together in one raid... that's the only option for keeping the drives in sync. You're not RAIDing the SSD with the rest of the RAID as a whole... but with each mechanical drive individually... and it's not like the mechanical drives can somehow speed themselves up to match the SSD.
Otherwise, maybe the traffic from the RAID and the SSD are fighting once all that gets back to your southbridge. That would depend on the board, and probably how well your chipset drivers deal with lots of disk I/O.
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 12/07/2012 07:31 PM
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DroidXY Peon

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Example:
-2 HDDS in Raid 0/1 or what you want
-Single SSD also in raid mode (bios option for the sata port)
This leads to an really bad performance of the ssd
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 12/07/2012 07:35 PM
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Mime Forum Moderator

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If that makes one array of three drives... then a slow SSD is just the way it's going to be.
If that makes two arrays of two drives mechanical drives, and one with just the SSD... then it's probably a driver thing. SSD RAIDs are still fairly uncommon on the desktop, so there probably hasn't been a whole lot invested in knocking off the rough edges there.
I haven't set up a RAID in a while, but it seems odd that you wouldn't be able to run just a standalone drive in addition to the RAID.
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 12/07/2012 07:43 PM
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DroidXY Peon

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Originally posted by: Mime
I haven't set up a RAID in a while, but it seems odd that you wouldn't be able to run just a standalone drive in addition to the RAID.
You can run the ssd as standalone in addition to the raid, but the performance of the ssd is just bad!
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 12/07/2012 08:11 PM
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black_zion Heavy Wizardry

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That's one reason why many motherboards have one (or more) extra SATA ports on a separate controller on the motherboard itself. You could also invest in a PCIe based SATAIII controller card, they're not that expensive.
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 12/07/2012 08:41 PM
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DroidXY Peon

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The question is, if its a controller problem (hardware!?) or a firmware problem
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 12/07/2012 10:14 PM
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black_zion Heavy Wizardry

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Just so we're clear too, what is "bad", and are you sure it isn't the SSD itself needing a firmware update, or even something as simple as a new SATA cable?
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 12/09/2012 02:34 PM
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DroidXY Peon

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I tested it with Raid and without. Bad means ~22MB/s at the 4k 64thr test with as ssd for a Samsung 830 ssd against ~200MB/s without raid. Found couple of others with the raid+single ssd problem, but these are in german.
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 12/16/2012 03:00 PM
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DroidXY Peon

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 12/18/2012 11:00 AM
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In my "EARLY" experiance with the 990X chipset, once I set RAID, it sets ALL ports(1-4) as RAID. If your SSD is on that channel, then thats probably your problem. My ports 5&6 are set to IDE mode because of my optical drives.
Possibly, with your configuration, this may apply to your situation:
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20101224110852910&board_id=1&model=Crosshair+IV+Formula&page=1&SLanguage=en-us
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