Hello, i have tree laptops in my mind but i cant find out which one is better the one has a graphics card with 1gb and the other 2gb same i hope you guys can tell me which one is better for gaming watching films etc..

this is are the three laptops,

http://www.wehkamp.nl/computer-telecom/laptops/laptops/toshiba-satellite-l850-1up-laptop/C31_6F4_6F4_775786/?KW4=526250&PRmin=5&PRmax=2290&KAPRmin=500&KAPRmax=229000&F=1,2,10,17,4&SM=5

or

http://www.wehkamp.nl/computer-telecom/laptops/laptops/toshiba-satellite-p870-32h-laptop/C31_6F4_F41_775795/?MK=16982&PRmin=728&PRmax=949&KAPRmin=35500&KAPRmax=229000&F=6,10,1,17&SM=4

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.wehkamp.nl/computer-telecom/laptops/laptops/toshiba-satellite-l850-1up-laptop/C31_6F4_6F4_775786/?KW4=526250&PRmin=5&PRmax=2290&KAPRmin=500&KAPRmax=229000&F=1,2,10,17,4&SM=5

Has the best graphics card in it.

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Just so you know before you buy...Please read http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=448&threadid=161340&enterthread=y

This is so you don't come back posting you can't update your graphics card.

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so if i am getting this one

http://www.wehkamp.nl/computer-telecom/laptops/laptops/toshiba-satellite-l870-16m-laptop/C31_6F4_6F4_775794/

i cant change my graphics card for later?..

Nope, no Toshitba laptop has the ability to change the graphics card. But depending on the games you will want to play, you might need to look at an AMD APU based laptop with dual graphics, or something with a bit more graphical kick, such as the This ASUS one or This one.

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If by 'change' you mean replace...no. I am speaking of updating the drivers...which you can do only by getting them from Toshiba....(this holds true for Panasonic and Sony laptops as well). And after about 2-3 updates they quit offering them. Depending on the games you expect to play on your laptop...I'll just say ..don't expect too much. From any laptop. If your gaming needs are modest. I am having good results using the Intel HD3000 graphics that are imbedded in the I3, I5, and I7 cpu's. Now they have the HD4000 which is even better, and out performs most low and mid-level  discrete graphics from AMD and Nvidia. Look at the benchmarks:

Intel HD 4000	471	NA
Quadro FX 3450	469	NA
GeForce 8800M GTS	469	NA
Intel HD i7-2670QM	467	NA
Radeon HD 2900 GT	467	NA
RADEON X800 GTO	467	NA
Radeon HD 7520G	464	NA
Radeon HD 7520G + 7600M Dual	462	NA
Intel HD >a 4000	461	NA
Mobility Radeon HD 3850	461	NA
Sapphire RADEON X1600 XT	459	NA
FirePro V3800	458	$107.99
Radeon HD 7600G	458	NA
Intel HD P4000	456	NA
Quadro FX 1800M	455	NA
GeForce 7900 GT	453	NA
Quadro FX 3500M	453	NA
VisionTek Radeon X1600 XT	452	NA
VisionTek Radeon X1600XT XGE	450	NA
Intel HD i7-2860QM	450	NA
Radeon HD 7550M	449	NA
GeForce GT 420	448	$39.99*
Sapphire RADEON X800	446	NA
Radeon HD 7480D	443	NA
Mobile Intel HD	440	NA
Intel HD i5-2500K	438	NA
GeForce GT 620	436	$44.99
FireGL V5200	435	NA
RADEON X800 PRO/GTO	434	NA
RADEON X800GT	434	NA
Radeon X1700 FSC	430	NA
Radeon HD 7500G	427	NA
GeQuadro 6200 TurboCache	426	NA
GeForce 9600 GS	426	NA
RV530 XT	423	NA
GeForce GT 325M	420	NA
Intel HD i5 M 580	420	NA
Mobility Radeon HD 6470M	419	NA
Intel HD Xeon E31275	417	NA
Quadro FX 3400	415	$99.99*
Intel HD i5 661	415	NA
Sapphire RADEON X800 GT	414	NA
FirePro M39003	414	NA
Radeon HD 6520M	413	NA
Radeon HD 6480G	413	NA
GeForce GT 240M LE	413	NA
HERCULES 3D PROPHET 9800 XT Classic	413	NA
Radeon HD 5550	411	$49.99
ASUS V9999 Gamer Edition V61.21	411	NA
FirePro V3750	410	$128.99*
FireGL X2-256/X2-256t	409	NA
SUMO 964A	408	NA
MSI NX7600 GT	407	NA
GeForce GT 520M	406	$59.99*
Radeon HD 6410D	404	NA
Radeon HD 4700	402	NA
RADEON 9800 XT - Secondary	400	NA
Intel HD i5 K 655	398	NA
GeForce 6800 GTO	398	$39.99*
Mobility Radeon HD 5165	394	NA
RADEON HD6410D	393	NA
GeForce 9800M GT	391	NA
RADEON 9800 XT	390	NA
GeForce GT 120 / 9500 GT	389	NA
Mobility Radeon HD 565v	389	NA
Intel HD Xeon E31225	388	NA
RADEON HD6370D	387	NA
Radeon HD 7470	385	NA
VisionTek Radeon 4350	385	NA
Radeon HD 4590	385	NA
GIGABYTE RADEON X800 XL	385	NA
NVS 5100M	383	NA
Mobility Radeon HD 560v	382	NA
Intel HD i5 M 450	382	NA
Radeon HD 7660D + 7470 Dual	381	NA
Quadro FX 880M	381	NA
GeForce Go 6800 Ultra	381	NA
GeForce 410M	380	NA
Intel HD i7-2675QM	379	NA
Intel HD i3 560	379	NA
Intel HD i5 M 480	379	NA
Quadro FX 1700M	378	NA
MSI RADEON 9800 PRO Plus	377	NA
Intel HD i5-2500S	376	NA
Mobility Radeon HD 4650	376	NA
Intel HD i5 M 460	375	NA
GeForce GT 330M	375	NA
Intel HD i5-2435M	374	NA
SUMO 9644	374	NA
Intel HD i7 M 640	373	NA
Intel HD i5-2510E	372	NA
GeForce GT 240M	371	NA
FireGL X2

 

Here is a good article :  http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-4000-Benchmarked.73567.0.html

Do some Google searches and read the posts in this laptop forum to know what to expect...I would stay away from any dual graphics/switchable graphics or any hybrid combination. They are problematic and are totally dependent on the laptop manufacturer.

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Edited: 02/14/2013 at 12:17 PM by stumped

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Intel I7 960 @ 3.87ghz *Intel DX58SO *HIS HD6970 2gb *Corsair TX650M *2x4gb Corsair XMS3 *WD Black 1TB *Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit *Gateway HD2401 24" 2ms 1920x1200  ***Asus N71Jq laptop *Intel I7 720QM Processor *Mobility Radeon HD5730 1gb *8gb Ram *Windows 7 64bit  ***Acer 5750 laptop

* A clear conscience is usually a sign of bad memory *

Edited: 02/10/2013 at 04:37 PM by stumped