Topic Title: Can I update my HP laptop to Win 8.1 ?
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 04/26/2014 03:49 PM
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This holds true for ALL laptops. Check with the manufacturer before you 'try' to upgrade to Win 8.1. Even if your laptop will support Windows 8 does not mean it will support Windows 8.1.

 

http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ad/windows-8/upgrade.html



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 06/14/2014 01:38 PM
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Thanks for the feedback.

 

You can always do a clean install of windows 8.1.

 

I have one ancient laptop, acer 3500 (1.25 gb ram), one old laptop, vaio FZ21Z (4gb ram) and one old netbook, acer D250 (2 gb ram) running Windows 8.1 32bit flawlessly (or with minimal compatibility issues to be more fair).

 

They all do not "officially" support windows 8 or 8.1

 

That doesn't mean they can't now, does it ?

 



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 06/14/2014 04:37 PM
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Why would anyone want to willingly use Windows 8... I don't get it personally. Windows 7 64-Bit forever. lol



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 06/14/2014 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by: HoneyBadger84 Why would anyone want to willingly use Windows 8... I don't get it personally. Windows 7 64-Bit forever. lol

 

Because some people want to 'upgrade' to the latest greatest. Problem is, especially people that have XP on their laptops, they find out after they install Windows 8.1 that it doesnt work correctly. Even people who have 'upgraded' to Win 8 have the same issue trying to go to 8.1. Windows 8 was forgiving as to requirements...Win 8.1 not so much. Remember, these are laptops. Not a easy thing to swap out components.



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 06/14/2014 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by: HoneyBadger84 Why would anyone want to willingly use Windows 8... I don't get it personally. Windows 7 64-Bit forever. lol

 

 

possible reasons:

1. I have a spare tablet and i want to experiment

2. I want my gaming pc to also look like my iclone

3. I love multitasking

4. I want to work on a os that doesn't look like xp, vista, windows 7

5. because i can and never had serious issues with any microsoft os in the past cause i am an experienced user

 

It could be anything. Why do we get a new smart phone every now and then ? Or a new tv ? Or a new gpu ?

Because it serves our needs, whether true or not.

It serves our consumerism.

 

I personally see windows 8.1 as windows 7+, but that is just me. And i've seen people crying for xp, vista, windows 7.

Never had a serious problem with either of them, and i've owned all.

 

Now, you will surely ask: define serious problem ?

 Here's the trick because it differs from user to user, doesn't it ?

 

 



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 06/15/2014 05:43 AM
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I commented that way because personally Win8 has nothing I want and downsides I strongly dislike, including the performance hit and the extra ram usage.

For me Windows 7 is better in every aspect. But I'm also one of the few people that loved Windows Vista (I was of course using Ultimate 64-bit there too). I dispised XP. I've been running 7 since shortly after its release and having seen everything 8 has to offer, I don't get why anyone would upgrade to it from 7 specifically. Especially on a laptop.  Given all the issues laptops can have with drivers not working in a new OS, the risk/reward line on updating a laptop to a new OS isn't worth it most of the time imo.



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 06/19/2014 04:22 AM
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You can always do a clean install of windows 8.1.

 06/19/2014 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by: HoneyBadger84 I commented that way because personally Win8 has nothing I want and downsides I strongly dislike, including the performance hit and the extra ram usage.

 

For me Windows 7 is better in every aspect. But I'm also one of the few people that loved Windows Vista (I was of course using Ultimate 64-bit there too). I dispised XP. I've been running 7 since shortly after its release and having seen everything 8 has to offer, I don't get why anyone would upgrade to it from 7 specifically. Especially on a laptop.  Given all the issues laptops can have with drivers not working in a new OS, the risk/reward line on updating a laptop to a new OS isn't worth it most of the time imo.

 

 

Yes, it sure is of everyone's personal taste, isn't it ?

 

But for me and other users, and after i made all the necessary testing and comparisons, the latest os is lighter and handles hardware and software resources better.

I exclude the metro app start menu which, as much as i personally love the concept (not necessarily the execution of the idea), it draws unnecessary gpu power and is not always driver-friendly.

But that is just me.

My own personal experience.

What i really don't get, and i speak in general, is people who have not even touched the newer os, start making all kinds of silly complaints and arguments without personal feedback.

And they may as well be the same people that did exactly the same with xp, vista and w7.

And yes, i had an incompatible belkin wifi stick driver for 2 months after windows 8 was released to the public.

Did it stop me from using it ? No. It took me less than 5 min to find an excellent temporary, one-time effort, workaround on the internet to get my wifi drivers functional (i had a spare ethernet cable, though that's not the point).

The same company, belkin, was 3 months late to post online a functional driver for the same usb wifi stick in windows 7 launch time !!!

How was that a microsoft os issue ?

I can give similar examples and make a good debate, but that would not be the point.

 

 

Point is, the microsoft tech guys know what they are doing, they knew even with the abomination that people know as windows vista (i NEVER had a single problem related explicitely to that os, apart from being a heavy os to work with).

 

Point is that there is a pattern that repeats itself and, possibly, on the same users, on the os market. And i do not talk about the ones who exalt mac machines (not pc, lol).

 

My opinion, microsoft keeps enhancing the windows os experience. So there is really no need to stick with a particular os just because we are used to it.

Surely not because the start menu is missing from my down left side of screen..............

 

The choice is free and the choice is ours, unless we limit our view.....

 

Thanks for reading.

 

 

p.s.   yea, it is probably a good idea for the average laptop user to stick with windows 7.

There i admit it.



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Edited: 06/19/2014 at 01:21 PM by backFireX64
 06/19/2014 04:41 PM
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What does all this have to do with this post? We have numerous posts from users (not proffesionals like you two guys/girls) who can't get their Windows XP laptop to work..Fully..with Windows 8.1 and want to know why. This post is for them. It doesn't matter what you have done. There is no way, period, that you can make a laptop Win 8.1 compliant if it does not have the correct requirements...namely the WDDM requirements and the graphics requirements. Take the time to read about them...this isn't Windows 8. This was a simple information post for those people who have already or want to 'upgrade' to Windows 8.1...which has gone in a different direction with peoples preferences and chatter/opinions.



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 06/19/2014 08:27 PM
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I will just say this:

 

Every laptop "designed for xp" that i have touched (and i have touched a few for mostly hobby), could be unofficially updated to windows 8 and 8.1 without problems, even if there were not supported or if no drivers posted on official sites.

And you don't have to be a pro to realize that. Just a little above the average with some common sense about sales policies.

 

I just wanted to give an insight about an ever spreading myth that benefits all the others, except you and me. I would like to keep my good functioning laptop if i choose so, thank you very much.

 

Doesn't people deserve to know ? That is my only intention.

Should it be a common secret among the vendors ?

Have i trolled, highjacked, misinformed other users in this topic ?

If so, send me a private message and i'll apologize appropriately.

 

I despise the fact that someone forces me to upgrade my beloving hardware when it should be my choice.

 

Free will, remember ?

 

 

I will stop now.

 

 



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 06/20/2014 08:17 AM
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If you don't want discussion on a topic you post to happen then why even post it.  If you wanted it to simply be a guide, you should've posted "Guide/How To update my HP Laptop to Win 8.1" not Can I, like it's debatable or up for discussion... *shrug* simply giving my opinion on the matter from my personal experience with the different OSes & laptops in particular since I've been through about 5 of them over the years.



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 06/20/2014 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by: HoneyBadger84 If you don't want discussion on a topic you post to happen then why even post it.  If you wanted it to simply be a guide, you should've posted "Guide/How To update my HP Laptop to Win 8.1" not Can I, like it's debatable or up for discussion... *shrug* simply giving my opinion on the matter from my personal experience with the different OSes & laptops in particular since I've been through about 5 of them over the years.

 

 

What you say stands true for this and all forums as far as i know.

 

I quote:

This was a simple information post for those people who have already or want to 'upgrade' to Windows 8.1

 

Well, stumped's got a good point there..... I mean, this topic is specifically for upgrading from w8 to w8.1, or for those who already did and have some issues.

 

I think we, or "I", may have gotten it a little, tiny bit derailled afterall, don't you agree HoneyBadger84 ?



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Edited: 06/20/2014 at 11:08 AM by backFireX64
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