Topic Title: ATI Radeon 4830 Windows 8.1 64bit Laptop drivers
Topic Summary: Windows 8.1, ATI Radeeon 4830, Hp Envy 15-1060ea
Created On: 07/15/2014 03:04 AM
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 07/15/2014 03:04 AM
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I own an HP envy 15-1060ea laptop with a first generation i7 processor and an AMD Ati radeon 4830 graphics card and i really need drivers,

I would like to play games such as Need for speed Hot pursuit and Need for speed most wanted but the drivers keep bringing up BSOD errors yet these are not really demanding games that such a card won't handle.

Failed to install the catalyst control center so i installed te legacy driver through the device manager however it is not stable at all. i have trieding sweeping, uninstalling and reinstalling the driveers and all means and it just won't stablise, i just need a stable driver not improvements made to it.

This is a top of the rage laptop thats powerful enough to do alot of things i wonder why AMD would stop support for such a card if its still good enough in terms of capacity to handle alot more work.

 07/15/2014 03:20 AM
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Your graphics card, for one thing, does not meet the minimum requirements for Windows 8.1. If you would have checked with HP they would have told you that. You must have a HD5xxx series or above. Using Win7 is your best bet. Feel free to read many similar posts in this forum.



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 07/15/2014 03:45 AM
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What am running is Windows 8.1 Enterprise which as seen bellow,

Windows 8.1 Enterprise: System Requirements

Windows 8.1 Enterprise works great on the same hardware that powers Windows 8:

  • Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster
  • RAM: 1 gigabyte (GB) (32-bit) or 2 GB (64-bit)
  • Hard disk space: 16 GB (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)
  • Graphics card: Microsoft DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM driver

Additional requirements to use certain features:

  • For 64-bit installations of Windows 8.1 Enterprise, your CPU must also support CompareExchange16b, PrefetchW and LAHF/SAHF.
  • To use touch, you need a tablet or a monitor that supports multitouch.
  • To access the Windows Store and to download and run apps, you need an active Internet connection and a screen resolution of at least 1024 x 768, and a Microsoft account.
  • To snap apps, you need a screen resolution of at least 1366 x 768.
  • Internet access (ISP fees might apply)
  • Some features such as touch and Client Hyper-V may require advanced or Windows 8 certified hardware.

As of http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dn140267.aspx

 

The ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4800 Series supports DirectX 10.1, Shader 4.1

as seen at  http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-4830.14954.0.html

 

Manufacturer ATI
Mobility Radeon HD 4800 Series

Mobility Radeon HD 4860

640 @ 650MHz 128 Bit @ 1000MHz

Mobility Radeon HD 4850

800 @ 500MHz 256 Bit @ 850MHz
Mobility Radeon HD 4830 640 @ 550MHz 128 Bit @ 700MHz
Codename M97
Architecture Terascale 1
Pipelines 640 - unified
Core Speed * 550 MHz
Shader Speed * 550 MHz
Memory Speed * 700 MHz
Memory Bus Width 128 Bit
Memory Type GDDR3, DDR3
Shared Memory no
DirectX DirectX 10.1, Shader 4.1
Transistors 826 Million
technology 40 nm
Features Powerplay, CrossFireX support, 
Notebook Size large
Date of Announcement 03.03.2009
Information 512 - 768 GFlops Computing Power
Link to Manufacturer Page http://ati.amd.com/products/mobilityrade...
 07/15/2014 04:52 AM
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Do you really think Microsoft can command AMD to make 8.1 compatible drivers for abandoned products? Think again.



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 07/15/2014 05:05 AM
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Originally posted by: FeliEnvy15

What am running is Windows 8.1 Enterprise which as seen bellow,

Windows 8.1 Enterprise: System Requirements

Windows 8.1 Enterprise works great on the same hardware that powers Windows 8:

 

 

  • Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster
  • RAM: 1 gigabyte (GB) (32-bit) or 2 GB (64-bit)
  • Hard disk space: 16 GB (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)
  • Graphics card: Microsoft DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM driver

Additional requirements to use certain features:

 

 

 

  • For 64-bit installations of Windows 8.1 Enterprise, your CPU must also support CompareExchange16b, PrefetchW and LAHF/SAHF.
  • To use touch, you need a tablet or a monitor that supports multitouch.
  • To access the Windows Store and to download and run apps, you need an active Internet connection and a screen resolution of at least 1024 x 768, and a Microsoft account.
  • To snap apps, you need a screen resolution of at least 1366 x 768.
  • Internet access (ISP fees might apply)
  • Some features such as touch and Client Hyper-V may require advanced or Windows 8 certified hardware.

As of http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dn140267.aspx

 

 

 

 

The ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4800 Series supports DirectX 10.1, Shader 4.1

 

as seen at  http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-4830.14954.0.html

 

 

 

Manufacturer ATI
Mobility Radeon HD 4800 Series

Mobility Radeon HD 4860

640 @ 650MHz 128 Bit @ 1000MHz

Mobility Radeon HD 4850

800 @ 500MHz 256 Bit @ 850MHz
Mobility Radeon HD 4830 640 @ 550MHz 128 Bit @ 700MHz
Codename M97
Architecture Terascale 1
Pipelines 640 - unified
Core Speed * 550 MHz
Shader Speed * 550 MHz
Memory Speed * 700 MHz
Memory Bus Width 128 Bit
Memory Type GDDR3, DDR3
Shared Memory no
DirectX DirectX 10.1, Shader 4.1
Transistors 826 Million
technology 40 nm
Features Powerplay, CrossFireX support, 
Notebook Size large
Date of Announcement 03.03.2009
Information 512 - 768 GFlops Computing Power
Link to Manufacturer Page http://ati.amd.com/products/mobilityrade...

There is a lot more to Win 8.1 than DX.....WDDM for one. AMD has stopped support for Win8 and WDDM 1.2, as is Microsoft, and your card is a WDDM 1.1,

" Last Updates: 7/10/2014

Article Number: RN-WIN-RC14.7
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  • Starting with AMD Catalyst 14.6 Beta, AMD will no longer support Windows 8.0 (and the WDDM 1.2 driver)
  • Windows 8.0 users should upgrade (for free) to Windows 8.1 to take advantage of the new features found in the AMD Catalyst 14.7 RC driver
  • AMD Catalyst 14.4 will remain available for users who wish to remain on Windows 8
    • A future AMD Catalyst release will allow for the WDDM 1.1 (Windows 7 driver) to be installed under Windows 8.0 for those users unable to upgrade to Windows 8.1

     

  • Windows 8 was more forgiving in it's requirements...not Win 8.1. There is no way you can make that card support WDDM 1.3. Here's what Microsoft says about why the new wddm requirement....article


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Edited: 07/15/2014 at 05:17 AM by stumped
 07/15/2014 06:55 AM
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Its not about commanding AMD,

 

The Mobility Radeon HD 4830 was announced around June 2008 with Windows 7 as the newest Microsoft operating system, later Microsoft has released windows 8 thats 3 or four years later and windows 8.1 a year after, and soon if we are to go by the roumours, windows 9 is on its way.

AMD rendering the 4830 card absolete by not providing support for it means it made this card for only windows 7 OS even though the card is powerful enough to still run other OS's.

So does it mean we will have to buy new hardware for every new OS released? and if so whats is the use of making an extremely powerful card that can run future applications but limit it by rendering it absolete before its time just becouse you want people to buy new hardware that they  really don't need??

 

I  can't replace the card in my notebook coz am kinda a noob but i would really appreciate help on how i can keep my machine running with updated products that it supports. 

 

Any advise please? i speent alot on this machine and i wouldn't really wish to downgrade back to windows 7 however good an OS it is.

 07/15/2014 09:13 AM
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Complain to Microsoft if their attempts at trying to move everyone into this decade of hardware is to much for you. Windows 7 is supported until 2020, so name one thing Windows 8.1 can do that Windows 7 cannot and you absolutely positively have to have.

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 07/17/2014 06:30 AM
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Well it isn't all about what it can or can't do, its about me having this uncontrollable desire to use the latest, newest and most powerful stuff out there even though i can't afford it or even don't need it really.

(Like having a B-2 Spirit Bomber for business trips when i wish)

Thought you guys had some ideas like maybe third party drivers that could keep me going, otherwise if WINDOWS 7 is all you got for me, then guess i will have to dual-boot so i do the  gaming on it and keep 8.1 for simple work.

 

 07/17/2014 08:09 AM
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If you have to have the latest and most powerful stuff, then why are you using a 5 year old laptop? But there are no 3rd party drivers for graphics cards under Windows anymore.

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 07/18/2014 06:50 AM
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You missed the point where i said 'Can't afford' isgust;

 

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