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 06/01/2012 05:14 AM
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I tried overclocking my CPU for the first time yesterday. I went to the CPU Overdrive in CCC and clicked Auto-Tune. It tested three frequencies successfully but at 1800MHz speed, 9.0x multiplier at 1.375V, the PC just turned off on its own. I thought that the PSU died since the PC wasnt getting any power when I tried turning it on. But when I took it to the store later they told me that my mobo had died. They blamed my 500W PSU for it and said something about the CPU not being at the right temperature for oveclocking that caused this.

Anyways, now I have to get a new mobo for my Phenom II X6 1090T processor. Only brand available to me is MSI. I plan on getting a good mobo so that I may upgrade to the Piledrivers when they come out. As far as I know, AM3+ mobos should support AM3 CPUs, and since Piledrivers should be AM3+ too, a good selection now may take me long way.

The mobo models that I'm currently looking at are the 990XA-GD55, 990FXA-GD65 and 990FXA-GD80. (comparison from msi site - http://www.msi.com/service/product-comparison/mb.html).

Here's the link (http://www.ucc-bd.com/products-1/search-brand/msi/motherboard.html) to the site of my local store. These are the mobos they have for AMD CPUs. Please take a look at the mobos and suggest me one appropriate to my requirements.

Also, I'd like to mention that I ran into a lot of limitations with my last mobo (880GM-E41) which was pretty cheap. I dont want to face such situations with my new mobo. I have a mid-tower Thermaltake casing.

 

Thanks a lot! I really appreciate the help!

 06/01/2012 10:27 AM
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Well, seems that the market you specified only sells MSI motherboards, so your best choice would be 990FXA-GD80.. It's the best of them..

So, now, to the important stuffs..

How in this earth are you OCing??.. I mean, common sense says that you need a very nice aftermarket CPU cooler to do that, a nice airflow in your case, the use of branded PSU (being this part very important) and a good thermal compound.. What PSU do you have?.. And please, not say "a XXX Watts", because that's not relevant.. Brand, model, outputs..

You didn't specified anything else from your system specs, like in my signature, so maybe you could get even a Martian/Sideral mobo, and still fry it the next time you try to OC..

Frying a mobo indicates not only a limited one, but maybe another bad-way procedures.. Being one of them, OCing under Windows, not under Bios..

I strongly recomend to you that use the software bundled with your mobo to do a first "safe" aproach to OC speeds, and then, read, and read, and read, and read a bit more, how to do some small steps to achieve the highest speed your combo can achieve..

 

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Edited: 06/01/2012 at 11:37 AM by Mkissner
 06/01/2012 12:27 PM
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+1 ^. I would also add the fact that you should look at other motherboards than MSI. ASUS and Gigabyte have better track records in overclocking and less problems than MSI

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 06/01/2012 01:01 PM
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I have a Thermaltake litepower 500w psu, I'm going to change it and go for a Thermaltake toughpower grand 1050w 80 plus gold.

I'm a total noob to overclocking and I should have done more research before jumping into it. I know.

How would a thermaltake frio OCK be for overclocking my CPU? I'll try to get an H80 from abroad, but just in case i cant, will the frio prove to be enough?

Also, I'm going to get a 7970. The lightning seems to be the better option compared to the Sapphire dual-x, according to the reviews on the internet. Which one would be better in your opinion?

I proly wont be able to get any brand other than MSI since the store I bought my last one from doesnt have them. If they dont provide me with a replacement, I'll definitely look at Gigabyte mobos. Please suggest some Gigabyte mobo models so that I can look into them.

But if i were to get a lightning, wouldnt the MSI mobos perform better in combo?

Also, I wont ever be using 4 PCIE slots, so wouldnt that make the GD-55 the better option price vs performance wise?

My system had 8GBs of RAM, will upgrade to 16 soon. Processor was 1090T, wont be upgrading before the piledrivers come out. GPU was 6790, soon to upgrade to 7970 Dual-x or 7970 lightning.

Thanks a lot! I really appreciate the help!

 06/01/2012 02:37 PM
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That CPU cooler is good enough.. I had a Tt Frio (not the OCK) and ran well, but my ambient temps made me to move to a better cooler..

About the MSI combo, it doesn't mean anything.. Drivers for the GPU are provided by AMD, and then they made some tweaks (if need so) and releases to the users.. Same to tose for the mobo.. And I don't think they releases in combo, either..

For another brand of motherboard, and looking you're gonna still with AMD until Piledrive, I would strongly recommend you the ROG series, like the Crosshair V Formula.. They're one hell of a card, strong enough to OC to the limits and stable..

Regarding the MSI's models, maybe you won't need all the PCI-E lines, but you should look more into the phases each has.. As a general rule, high-end models have better thermal disipation in the bridges, and more phases to manage the energy/overvoltages..

Please, before doing anything regarding the OC, get the new PSU.. Remember something: that's the heart of your system, even in the near future when you get your upgrades, so don't be cheap on this one..

So, steps should be:

Get the mobo (assuming you don't already have one)

Get the PSU

Get the CPU cooler

OC CPU (if want to)

Get the GPU

 

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 06/01/2012 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by: ahnafakeef

I have a Thermaltake litepower 500w psu, I'm going to change it and go for a Thermaltake toughpower grand 1050w 80 plus gold.


Ugg Big time Overkill unless you're going to tri-fire some 7970s.



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 06/01/2012 05:09 PM
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You would be much better off going with a 750w 80 Plus Gold SeaSonic or Enermax made unit

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 06/02/2012 05:12 AM
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I'll try to have a Corsair H80 brought from abroad along with a 7970 lightning/dual-x. But if not, then I'll be bound to get the frio, unless I can find some other cooling solution in my country which would be better.

Theres a good chance that they wont provide me with a replacement for the dead mobo. If so, then I'll go look for Gigabyte mobos, which should be available here. Just not sure whether they'll have FX series mobos.

I know that 1050w will probably way more than I'll ever need, but its the only one that has 70A on the 12V rail. Also, the 1200w of the same series is almost the same price here and has 105A on the 12V rail. Should I get the 1200w? Only option other than thermaltake here is Gigabyte, but they only bring mid-range ones. I'm not having the PSU brought over from abroad as some of my friends have had them brought over, and they didnt last a month. They couldnt use the warranty as the flight cost and time required would be way too much just to avail a warranty.

According to the articles/threads I've read, 1090T isnt really that good when compared to Intel CPUs. The reasons I'm not going for a CPU change right now is that I'd have to spill a lot of cash on it and also, if the piledrives prove to be as good as the rumors are, then an AMD CPU-GPU combo should give me the upper hand. Otherwise, I'll definitely go intel next time around.

Since its not as good as required, I most definitely want to OC it. And I'll get every component needed in order to avail that facility. Would you please be kind enough to provide me with legitimate/proven resources regarding OCing a 1090T? I've no idea about OCing whatsoever as you can tell, and I'd be really grateful if you could provide me with complete guidelines as to how to OC.

Are you referring to ROG mobos or GPUs? I doubt that ROG mobos are available here for AMD CPUs. and theres no ROG GPU for AMD, AFAIK.

How well are the OC results on MSI boards? Can I get the 1090T up to 4.0GHz?

 

Thanks a lot! I really appreciate the help!

 08/07/2012 11:52 AM
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deleted due to ignorance



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Case: Senty BX2-4291
Power Supply: Rosewill 850W
Motherboard: Asus Crosshair Formula V
Cpu: Amd Fx Zambezi 3.6 (4.0), Corsair H50 Cooler
Memory: 16gigs G-Skill Ripjaws 1600mhz
Video: Hd Radeon 5770 900mhz 1gig ddr5
HDD: 500gig Western Digital Caviar 720



Edited: 08/07/2012 at 12:07 PM by WarMunkey
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I'd have thought that in 2 months that he'd have already bought a mainboard dude .. .. and posting your email addy on a forum ain't the best idea either, this forum is plagued with spambots and email harvesters .. I'd delete it and send a PM for that sort of thing in the future



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 08/07/2012 10:01 PM
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If a MOBO die does it jus won't turn on or it turn on but makes some strange noise like when there something wrong with your RAM ?, because i never have a dead MOBO before.



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