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  • Hi guys im a bit of noob when it comes to spec....ino how to put a pc together and know if the parts fit. when it comes to know how good they are for my needs i do not know.

    im looking to play games like Fallout3/new vagas some cod games like Bop2 Mw1 and skyrim and Forza harizon!

    Maybe abit of photoshop but not professional upload fraps video of games and that.

    thanks in advance!



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     02/07/2013 11:19 AM
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    Hardwood
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    Looks like you got a decent PSU, so unless my eyes are deceiving me, all you'll need is a decent GPU for gaming.

    The 7870 is popular but you could get something even better.

    Other:

    32GB of ram is pretty excessive. I'm totally content with 4gig.

    I suspect you could hybrid-crossfire the onboard 7660D with a discreet GPU which might be worth looking into.



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     02/07/2013 02:49 PM
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    lol No Gpu, I selected an AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB. Good point ill save some money just going with 8gb.

    Hybrid Crossfire? I know what crossfire is the kinda new way of putting 2 graphics cards together..... Thats all i know of what it does.

    forgot to add is an SSD good for having the oparating system on? rather than on an HDD, because i was going to use th SSD for oparating system and HHD for all my Games Photos Apps Etc...



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     02/08/2013 06:02 AM
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    You bet!! SSD for the OS is awesome.

    Hybrid crossfire is where onboard gpu is crossfired with a discreet gpu. Only certain combinations work and not necessarily worth the effort.

    Personally I'd bump that 7850 to a 7950 if the $ are there.



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     02/08/2013 01:43 PM
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    If I may suggest: if you are intending to build this system to play games, I would try to build a system with a discrete CPU + GPU, rather than an APU.

    Right off the bat, you're looking at buying an APU and then discarding the whole point of it - by not using the integrated GPU.  To me, that does not make sense.  The APUs are fantastic when used as they are intended.  I would consider an FX CPU + HD7000 series GPU.  An HD7850 (as suggested) would be great.  I'm inclined to spend less on the GPU, as it is easily upgraded in the future and prices are always dropping.

    ;Marc



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     02/09/2013 04:02 PM
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    Hi,

     

    I´m also playing most of the Games you´ve listed in your post. I´ve got some experience about IT Hardware/Software in connection with gaming issues.

    My actual Setup:

    - CPU: AMD FX8150 (eight cores)

    - GRAFX: AMD Radeon HD 7870 (Core Edition from XFX)

    - MAINBOARD: Gigabyte GA990XA-UD3

    - RAM: 16 GB

    - HDDs: 1 x 125 GB SANDISK SSD, 2 x SAMSUNG 500 GB

    - MOUSE: Logitech G700 (great wireless gaming mouse)

    - OS: WIN 7 64-bit (Installed on the SSD Drive)

     

    WIN 7 is installed on the 125 GB SSD drive.

    All TEMP files (from windows, from browsers, from any other app) are stored on my drive Z:\ which is a 4GB RAMDISK.

    So all your temp files, i-net history, etc. are permanently gone when switching off the PC (great security advantage).

    The most important reason for me to use a 4GB ramdrive is that it extremely reduces the number of reading- and/or writing-cycles on my SSD so that my SSD will have a longer lifetime.

     

    My (actual) hardware setup allows me to play every single game existing beeing released until now in HD and maxed out video settings.

    My (measured) average FP/S:

    "Dead Space 3" is +-190(fps)

    "Skyrim" +-95(fps)

    "Forza Horizon" +-100(fps)

     

     

     

    My former hardware setup included an AMD Phenom II 955 (4 Core CPU) and 2 ATI Radeon HD5770 in crossfire mode.

    Even with this "older" hardware setup I could easily play those games (mentioned above) in a decent way. After all I can say that I reached half of the FPS my new hardware setup does.

     

    The HD7870 really is a great and over all a very well performing videocard.

    If you intent  to get a HD7870 you should check which GPU is mounted to the videocard, because there are TWO different GPU types beeing installed on this card:

    1. "Pitcairn"

    2. "Tahiti"

    "Tahiti" definitely is the better choice because it simply is a better performing GPU.

     

    If you don´t want to spent that much on a videocard I recommend to get any other model out of the 7xxxx series. Those are all great cards and are state of the art :-)

     

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    I'm a little confused. Are you getting the 600W Corsair power supply, or is that just an option? I see power supply upgrade: 600W, but not "power supply". If you do end up getting a beefier graphics card, that's something to consider.



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     02/11/2013 12:00 PM
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    Originally posted by: Marc@AMD If I may suggest: if you are intending to build this system to play games, I would try to build a system with a discrete CPU + GPU, rather than an APU. Right off the bat, you're looking at buying an APU and then discarding the whole point of it - by not using the integrated GPU.  To me, that does not make sense.  The APUs are fantastic when used as they are intended.  I would consider an FX CPU + HD7000 series GPU.  An HD7850 (as suggested) would be great.  I'm inclined to spend less on the GPU, as it is easily upgraded in the future and prices are always dropping. ;Marc

    Thanks, An APU How much of a diffrance are you talking? I dont wanna wreck out some more money for 1/2 sec more FPS.

    Hi,

     

    I´m also playing most of the Games you´ve listed in your post. I´ve got some experience about IT Hardware/Software in connection with gaming issues.

    My actual Setup:

    - CPU: AMD FX8150 (eight cores)

    - GRAFX: AMD Radeon HD 7870 (Core Edition from XFX)

    - MAINBOARD: Gigabyte GA990XA-UD3

    - RAM: 16 GB

    - HDDs: 1 x 125 GB SANDISK SSD, 2 x SAMSUNG 500 GB

    - MOUSE: Logitech G700 (great wireless gaming mouse)

    - OS: WIN 7 64-bit (Installed on the SSD Drive)

     

    WIN 7 is installed on the 125 GB SSD drive.

    All TEMP files (from windows, from browsers, from any other app) are stored on my drive Z:\ which is a 4GB RAMDISK.

    So all your temp files, i-net history, etc. are permanently gone when switching off the PC (great security advantage).

    The most important reason for me to use a 4GB ramdrive is that it extremely reduces the number of reading- and/or writing-cycles on my SSD so that my SSD will have a longer lifetime.

     

    My (actual) hardware setup allows me to play every single game existing beeing released until now in HD and maxed out video settings.

    My (measured) average FP/S:

    "Dead Space 3" is +-190(fps)

    "Skyrim" +-95(fps)

    "Forza Horizon" +-100(fps)

     

     

     

    My former hardware setup included an AMD Phenom II 955 (4 Core CPU) and 2 ATI Radeon HD5770 in crossfire mode.

    Even with this "older" hardware setup I could easily play those games (mentioned above) in a decent way. After all I can say that I reached half of the FPS my new hardware setup does.

     

    The HD7870 really is a great and over all a very well performing videocard.

    If you intent to get a HD7870 you should check which GPU is mounted to the videocard, because there are TWO different GPU types beeing installed on this card:

    1. "Pitcairn"

    2. "Tahiti"

    "Tahiti" definitely is the better choice because it simply is a better performing GPU.

     

    If you don´t want to spent that much on a videocard I recommend to get any other model out of the 7xxxx series. Those are all great cards and are state of the art :-)

    How much did your Setup cost? 190 FPS? isnt 90 Enough

    I'm a little confused. Are you getting the 600W Corsair power supply, or is that just an option? I see power supply upgrade: 600W, but not "power supply". If you do end up getting a beefier graphics card, that's something to consider.

    Why does a PSU make a diffrance? i know everything need power and id make sure everything is getting there watts and maybe ill spare just incase.



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     02/12/2013 08:13 AM
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    It's not just watts they need, it's amps. Corsairs are good, and 600W is likely ample for a mid-range GPU, and some higher end GPUs today, everything is getting more power efficient these days.



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