Topic Title: RIP my Razer Diamondback...
Topic Summary: What to replace it with...
Created On: 02/25/2013 12:34 AM
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 02/25/2013 12:34 AM
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It's finally starting to die. Bought new in 2006 for $34.99 it's been the best mouse I've ever owned. As far as I can figure, the left mouse button's switch is starting to wear out because it fails to register a click every now and then.

The question now is what to replace it with...I'm leaning heavily towards the Steelseries Sensei [RAW], but I'd like some other opinions. NO LOGITECH RECOMMENDATIONS, please, I've had an 80% failure rate with all Logitech products I've owned (and I've owned 5).

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 02/25/2013 12:37 AM
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How about a Razer on steriods? http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2415768,00.asp?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ziffdavis%2Fpcmag+%28PCMag.com%3A+New+Product+Reviews%29&utm_content=My+MSN



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 02/25/2013 08:03 AM
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You said no Logitech, but I'm going to blatently ignore you.

 

Performance Mouse MX. Love mine. Got it as a free upgrade when one of my Revolution MX mice went down.



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 02/25/2013 11:41 AM
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I use a Razer DeathAdder....works very well, feels amazingly comfortable in my hand.



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 02/28/2013 05:59 PM
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Razer Naga Epic. adjustable grips, and weights.  feels great in the hands. 

I here ya about logitech products though they are junk.



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 02/28/2013 09:56 PM
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Well I went ahead with the Steelseries...It came down between it, the Razer DeathAdder, and the Razer Taipan. The Razer Naga was to overkill for me, I don't play games that require a macro keypad. The Razer Taipan appeared to be a bit overkill as well, plus the cloud software is an unnecessary bloatware compared to the streamlined Razer Diamondback applet. So between the Sensei RAW and the Deathadder, a fully rubberized coating and laser vs optical won out, though once I start using it I may wonder if it was worth the extra $17. But what also helped was the Razer Deathadder would have shipped from California while the Sensei shipped from Tennessee, which means one day vs 5 day (counting the weekend) shipping. I don't like how the Steelseries only carries a 1 year warranty, though Razer only carries a 2 year.

What worries me though is this Diamondback only has 1600dpi accuracy while the Sensei has a 5700dpi accuracy, wonder how much of an adjustment period there will be, if any...Though it most likely won't be as severe as the transition from ball to laser...Everyone remember ball based mice?

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 03/01/2013 07:00 PM
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I still have my windows 98 PC running with a ball mouse :-P. The Razer software is great. Any macro I make on my laptop, when I walk over to my desktop its there as well. If I take the mouse anywhere, I can install the software and bam all my macro's are there. As well as any individual customized settings for individual games. 

Let me know how the mouse works out for you.



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 03/01/2013 11:39 PM
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I got it in about 5 hours ago and I've been trying to get used to it, but it is, and pardon my French, complete and utter §hit! First off it weighs next to nothing, it has 0 grip, it slides across the pad with the lightest touch because it does weigh nothing so I've got to work it more like I would a trackball than a mouse, the whole mouse is a curved dome shape instead of having depressions where your fingers could rest, the entire mouse is so huge that you would have to have hands the size of of Shaq for it to be comfortable, because it does weigh nothing the precision even when set to 1600dpi is horrible, the side buttons require about as much force as it takes to break the surface tension of water so they are unusable...

It's going back, $15 restocking fee and return shipping be damned, it's garbage.

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 03/01/2013 11:45 PM
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The weight is one of the things I like about my Logitech G5.  It's got a slot in the bottom, and comes with a bunch of little weights that fit into it allowing you to adjust the overall weight however you like. 



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 03/02/2013 02:40 AM
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Aye, I like my mouse to be weighty but not heavy, and grippy yet smooth, but not being able to use the side buttons is a big drawback. I've got 30 days, well 29 now, to file for an RMA Refund, so I might give it a couple of weeks and see what happens as return shipping plus a 15% fee is always a pain. Maybe as it ages and the skates get scuffed in it'll start getting more grip, but it'll be the last Steelseries product I buy, even this Steelseries mousepad not a couple of months old is already starting to peel at the edges. I wish Razer would go back and make a good, quality, simple mouse like the Diamondback again...

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 03/03/2013 04:37 PM
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Again I'll suggest the Naga Epic. You don't even have to use all the buttons on the side. The ones on the top work great. Or you could use the adder instead. I just like the adjustable weights and grips that come with the naga. 

Or this version of it. http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-naga-hex 

Less buttons on the side but there mechanical and the responsiveness of those buttons is great.

Personally I really want to give the corsair gaming mice a chance its just.. 

This epic is so awesome. 



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 03/07/2013 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by: Mime The weight is one of the things I like about my Logitech G5.  It's got a slot in the bottom, and comes with a bunch of little weights that fit into it allowing you to adjust the overall weight however you like. 

 

 

Agreed totally with this. The G5 is fantastic. I'll be sort of lost when that mouse dies. It just fits so well in my hand, and has a real nice weight to it.

Though, my brother's MX518 isn't far off.



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 03/07/2013 02:02 PM
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Rapoo V2 Gaming mouse. It is good. Then there are V3 to V8, no experience of those.

 

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Brand-New-Rapoo-V3-Wired-Gaming-Mouse-Top-5000dpi-laser-engine-Weight-tuning-system-7-Customize/803336_383020052.html

 

 



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 03/12/2013 12:59 PM
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Something odd is going on, as soon as my review was posted on Newegg, this mouse was marked as DISCONTINUED...I'm starting to get fed up with Newegg selling crap and trying to be like Amazon while replacing good quality products with garbage.

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