Topic Title: HD 7990 - Fantastic, or flop?
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 04/24/2013 09:06 AM
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black_zion
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So the HD 7990 is officially released and reviews are everywhere, so what do you think about it? Personally, I say it's a flop because it relies on a bundle of games which you may not give a rats arse about to allow AMD to ask the same price as the GTX 690 which, for all intents and purposes, has the same performance, yet gives a higher subjective performance (overrated metric), pulls 100w less power, and is less annoying under load due to the absence of high pitched tones.

IF the 7990 were released, say, a month after the 7970 then it wouldn't have been a big deal, but a year an a half later it is absolutely ridiculous that AMD did not and could not make real refinements. People that will spend a grand on this card are like the people who buy an upscale car, they're going to want perfection, and the 7970 is about as perfect as the Prius.

Non reference cards may help wring in the power draw and cut the whining, but for $1000 people expect a card to offer more than "A software bundle worth $335!". If AMD would have priced the card at $750 or even $800 and included maybe one or two games it would make sense, but you can't price and promote a card as an equal if it is not equal, and you can't use a bundle offer to improve value since the bundled software has no value as you cannot sell it.

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 04/24/2013 05:24 PM
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I hope some of the people who are bitching about their 'slow/low fps' with their new 7xxx cards in some of the new graphically demanding games read this. My thinking is any game can be enjoyably played at 30fps by the average user...the rest is just bragging rights. There are exceptions of course..the 7990 was supposedly built for ""  is designed for the PC gamer who wants to play high-end 3D games at the highest resolution on a massive high-resolution panel or spanning multiple displays.""

""The Nvidia GeForce GTX Titan is still the fastest single-GPU card on the market, but if you're looking for a dual-GPU solution, the AMD Radeon HD 7990 is a worthy competitor.""

 http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2418092,00.asp?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ziffdavis%2Fpcmag+%28PCMag.com%3A+New+Product+Reviews%29&utm_content=My+MSN



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Edited: 04/24/2013 at 05:30 PM by stumped
 04/24/2013 05:48 PM
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Yea but it's priced to close considering it draws more power and throws off more annoying noise pitches. Frame rates can be as low as 24 and still be perceived as smooth, but the lower the FPS the tighter the tolerances are for fluidity, as the time between frames is longer. The GeForce Titan is a better option for those people who do need that kind of power because while it may not be the top of the pack, it's a single GPU, and doesn't have to deal with imperfect scaling and multi-GPU induced issues, which is why AMD needs to QUIT IT with the dual GPU cards for the consumer market. Professional cards such as the FirePro S10000 (essentially a HD 7990) yes, but thousand dollar substitutes for penises, no.

AMD needs to quit it with the dual GPU cards and specifically make a single GPU card for the small penis crowd, like the Titan, but price it in line with performance.

Oh, and they need to FIRE whoever thought the "Never Settle" garbage was a good idea. If they would take half the money they spend on that crap and use it to cut the price of the card, they would sell more cards, and would stop supporting garbage studios like EA.

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Edited: 04/24/2013 at 06:06 PM by black_zion
 05/13/2013 12:03 PM
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yoo guys where can i post a topic

I need AMD<s help

 

i have spend much much money and last weekend i did something really crazy

 

Not to bragg but i really want support from AMD on this....

I have paired 2 7990 in crossfire(Quadfire how you call it)

But on real performance it does nto get me anywate yet

i have install the latest Betadrivers 13,5

can you post pictures 2 here?

 

 05/13/2013 07:50 PM
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Not spending this amount of money for any graphics card ever - in latest 2 years this card will be half price.

 

.. and about "high-end 3D games at the highest resolution" - looking at FarCry3 at ultra resolution it looks like crap in the distance and a $1000 card is not making cheap graphics any better. Btw, my 6850 is giving me smooth performance on ultra.

talking about double shot in the feet - producing cartoonish "high-end" games and want to sell GPU(s) for 1 grand? Won't work!

 

 



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 05/28/2013 11:53 PM
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Cards of this caliber are a terrifying proposition for me.  Guess I'm happy with my 7950.  Of course, as a policy I have no problem with people who choose to live on the bleeding edge, as it seems to me that's the way the technology eventually trickles down to the rest of us.  I just don't fall into that group.

 

Hmm ... just checked the Egg.  Three out of the four are out of stock?  Are people buying them or are just not very many being produced?



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Edited: 05/29/2013 at 12:17 AM by msdos622wasfun
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meh



Edited: 06/14/2013 at 06:56 AM by hd7770
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