Topic Title: 12.6 causing all manner of headaches! What did i do?!
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 07/24/2012 11:30 PM
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Ok this is going to be blunt:~ I can't help it. The deal is i have a saphire HD 5750, and, till i upgraded to 12.6 i honestly stuck with my guns and always defended you guys, however, after scouring for maybe 2 weeks now, yes i'm sadistic, i like to solve things myself, i still have no fix.

Before you get on your high horse - i have uninstalled all drivers before installing, i have gotten rid of (or altered) reg keys that some claim to be the problem - nothing, i've tried everything and from what i can gather you guy's don't seem to care, atleast you're not giving that impression. If you think you can fix this crap (ie underscan on reboot, really?! you release drivers with such a major flaw?!!!!) then i may stay loyal if sorted quickly. If not then well, I will most certainly switch, and will advise my customers too.

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 07/25/2012 12:29 AM
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How about...not using 12.6 if it causes problems? It is mainly an update for the HD 7000 series cards, not 2 year old HD 5000 series.

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 07/25/2012 08:34 AM
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Not sure how many times I've seen it posted,there is no reason to update drivers unless there is a fix for your particular setup,there's no such thing as"i need the latest drivers"other than to say you have them.

Them there's the ever popular"i'm going Nvidia"Well knock yourself out!I see It even on Nvidia sites,"I'm going AMD".

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 07/25/2012 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by: black_zion How about...not using 12.6 if it causes problems? It is mainly an update for the HD 7000 series cards, not 2 year old HD 5000 series.

I installed 11.5 last year because I was getting the "video driver has stopped working but has recovered" or similiar after installing IE9.  I'm not a gamer at all.

Due to other issues I had to restore a backup so I went back far enough to get rid of IE9 with 11.5.  I decided to try IE9 again and upgrade the drivers anyway.

After half dozen BSODs, I finally installed 12.6 after using the driver cleaner.

Did you say a two year old HD 5000 card?  What about a HD 4550?  It seems that card age isn't a factor. 

 07/25/2012 11:44 AM
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Hi ok just to quote you What did i do?! we have no idea what you did, you did not post any pc specs you may have a it running on a 250 watt psu or old bios. But the main thing here it is somthing you did so why blame anyone else, new drivers for video cards are for the new cards they contain nothing to help older cards as the driver for those cards was considered finished. As for the N threat please advise your customers to get one of those new hot 600 series cards that all have major problems you will be tops then. And yes I run both brands of cards.



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 07/25/2012 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by: Hammey Hi ok just to quote you What did i do?! we have no idea what you did, you did not post any pc specs you may have a it running on a 250 watt psu or old bios. But the main thing here it is somthing you did so why blame anyone else, new drivers for video cards are for the new cards they contain nothing to help older cards as the driver for those cards was considered finished. As for the N threat please advise your customers to get one of those new hot 600 series cards that all have major problems you will be tops then. And yes I run both brands of cards.

The heading on the driver page is "AMD Radeon™ Desktop Video Card Drivers".  So what does that mean?  Maybe AMD should post a support/non-support list and be more specific.

 07/25/2012 12:41 PM
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Maybe someone should get some common sense. As for the HD 4550, it is a legacy card.

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 07/25/2012 12:49 PM
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Hi yes I know but as I said most of us know that new drivers for older video cards dont help. You have to agree a person must have some idea how to install video drivers and what will help them and what will not. I am not running the new N drivers for my 2x 280's because I know they are no updates or fixes included in the new drivers that will help my card and will likley mess it up. This is why if you went to get drivers for your older card from your card manufacture they are older ones because there is nothing in the new drivers to help that card. Also I run 2z 7970 cards but I dont get every new driver you have to look at what is covered in that driver and make up your own mind if it will help or not. A 3 frame increase is not really a reason to update. As was mentioned most just want the new driver to say they have it with no understanding of what it will do. I am my own support and I am sure not going to listen to a new guy reading a bit from a auto responce manual to help me.



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 07/25/2012 01:23 PM
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OP...you should use the report form to register your issue with AMD  http://www.amdsurveys.com/se.ashx?s=5A1E27D20B2F3EC4

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 07/25/2012 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by: black_zion Maybe someone should get some common sense. As for the HD 4550, it is a legacy card.

If the HD 4550legacy or not, I was able to install 12.6 where somebody claimed a HD 5000 was too old. 

 07/25/2012 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by: stumped OP...you should use the report form to register your issue with AMD  http://www.amdsurveys.com/se.ashx?s=5A1E27D20B2F3EC4

 

wptski n00b >> Start your own thread....quit hijacking other peoples.

I'm not hijacking the thread, I'm defending older cards while you people are attacking them as the problem.  It would be nice to know for a particular card what/which driver should one stop updating on if they can't offer any useful gains.

 

 

 

 07/25/2012 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by: wptski
Originally posted by: stumped OP...you should use the report form to register your issue with AMD  http://www.amdsurveys.com/se.ashx?s=5A1E27D20B2F3EC4

 

wptski n00b >> Start your own thread....quit hijacking other peoples.

I'm not hijacking the thread, I'm defending older cards while you people are attacking them as the problem.  It would be nice to know for a particular card what/which driver should one stop updating on if they can't offer any useful gains.

 

 

 

You are not really serious? His card (5xxx) is supported....yours (4xxx) is not. Yours gets quarterly updates ...his gets monthly. Go pound sand someplace else.



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 07/25/2012 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by: stumped
Originally posted by: wptski
Originally posted by: stumped OP...you should use the report form to register your issue with AMD  http://www.amdsurveys.com/se.ashx?s=5A1E27D20B2F3EC4

 

wptski n00b >> Start your own thread....quit hijacking other peoples.

I'm not hijacking the thread, I'm defending older cards while you people are attacking them as the problem.  It would be nice to know for a particular card what/which driver should one stop updating on if they can't offer any useful gains.

 

 

 

You are not really serious? His card (5xxx) is supported....yours (4xxx) is not. Yours gets quarterly updates ...his gets monthly. Go pound sand someplace else.

Right, that's why it works!  Every forum has a know-it-all ***** which from reading the way you respond to other people also, would be you. Grow up!

 07/25/2012 11:24 PM
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To the op. You must have some other issue. I'm using 12.6 on my 5xxx cards with no isssues. The only reason I installed them was for the profiles included.

Here's the release notes .

NOTHING for 4xxx series.

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalystSoftwareSuiteVersion126ReleaseNotes.aspx

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 07/25/2012 11:52 PM
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Originally posted by: RatsAss To the op. You must have some other issue. I'm using 12.6 on my 5xxx cards with no isssues. The only reason I installed them was for the profiles included.

Here's the release notes .

NOTHING for 4xxx series.

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalystSoftwareSuiteVersion126ReleaseNotes.aspx

wptski

Can you know-it-alls explain why the driver works with my HD 4550 which isn't compatiable??  Probably not!

The troll response to a noobie from a childish regular when somebody doesn't agree with you.  Go play a game to amuse yourself.

 07/26/2012 06:09 AM
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It doesnt say it WONT work,just nothing added for 4xxx series.



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Hi this is for wptski in responce to It would be nice to know for a particular card what/which driver should one stop updating on if they can't offer any useful gains. Well what I do is every driver released has a Release Notes link right at the top I click that and it tells me what is fixed in this driver and for what cards if it contains nothing for my card I dont update it very simple process.



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 07/27/2012 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by: Hammey Hi this is for wptski in responce to It would be nice to know for a particular card what/which driver should one stop updating on if they can't offer any useful gains. Well what I do is every driver released has a Release Notes link right at the top I click that and it tells me what is fixed in this driver and for what cards if it contains nothing for my card I dont update it very simple process.

Thanks! I just looked at "previous versions" starting early last year looking at the release notes.  I should have started with 12.4 because 12.6 is the "only" version that doesn't list my HD 4550 card.  This doesn't mean that there are any gains but it's still in the list for 12.4.

 07/27/2012 10:50 AM
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thing is if you have a different issue, on a different forum you will be told, "have you updated your video card drivers", even though they work. Some folks just don't know. The updating is a double edge sword. I got a new HD6950 oc ver that came out not long ago with the 12.2 drivers as the first driver, it's a Sapphire. With this logic then I should never update. It don't work with the 12.4 drivers and I see no reason to get 12.6 but the CCC will remind you to update every month. So if your a n00b at pc stuff then you will do what it recommends. Thing is you must learn your system, know what works and what don't. I fix so many things for people because of "recommended updates". Dazzle they are right though the 5750 is a older card and you should go back down and stay there, you are not the only one with the over scan, underscan issue. HD6990's have it also with 12.6. I had it with 12.4 on mine. I have 12.3 drivers and will not update till I have to. My bios date is 2012/03/22. Good luck.

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Can you know-it-alls explain why the driver works with my HD 4550 which isn't compatiable??  Probably not!

The troll response to a noobie from a childish regular when somebody doesn't agree with you.  Go play a game to amuse yourself.

 

Catalyst 12.6 for AMD Legacy products is based on a completely different driver as compared to Catalyst 12.6 that was released for the AMD Radeon HD 5000 Series and newer products. I hope that this clarification helps you.

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