Topic Title: AMD Windows 8 support HD2xxx, HD3xxx, and HD4xxx cards/chips
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 10/27/2012 02:23 PM
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Late last week word began circulating that AMD would be dropping driver support for their DX10 generation GPUS – HD 2000, HD 3000, and HD 4000 – based on a Phoronix article discussing the future of driver support for those GPUs under Linux. As Phoronix correctly observed, AMD tends to drop support for a GPU under Linux and Windows simultaneously, so there was reason to believe that a similar retirement would indeed be coming for AMD’s DX10 GPUs under Windows.

Today AMD put out a statement clarifying the future of driver support for their DX10 GPUs, and as it turns out Phoronix was correct.

Starting with Catalyst 12.5 (May’s Catalyst release), AMD will be moving the HD 2000, HD 3000, and HD 4000 series from mainstream to legacy status. This means that those products will move from receiving monthly driver updates to quarterly driver updates, and at the same time AMD will shift away from working on further performance improvements and new features for those cards, and instead working solely on bug fixes and other critical updates. AMD believes they’ve gotten all they’re going to get from their DX10 GPUs from a performance standpoint, so now their focus is going to be on any driver bugs that may crop up with future games.

As you may recall, this is the same legacy driver development model that AMD moved their DX9 GPUs to back in 2009, when Catalyst 9.3 was the last mainstream driver to support those GPUs. If that transition is any kind of reliable guidance, that means we should expect another year of driver updates for AMD’s DX10 GPUs. Their last driver release for those GPUs was 10.2 back in February of 2010, roughly a year after they moved those GPUs to legacy status. With that said, given the slowing pace of graphics API development – we’re not even to Direct3D 11.1 yet – I wouldn’t be surprised (or at least will be hopeful) that AMD will continue legacy driver updates for more than a year. New DX9 games are still extremely common, never mind games that work on DX10.

At the same time this cements the status of AMD’s DX10 GPUs under Windows 8. As those GPUs could never fully support WDDM 1.2, it has been clear for some time now that those GPUs would not be at parity with AMD’s DX11 GPUs under Windows 8. Officially AMD will not support Windows 8 with their legacy drivers, however Windows 8 will include a version of AMD’s legacy driver for their DX10 GPUs and any newer releases of AMD’s legacy drivers should be installable on Windows 8 with little-to-no fiddling. So with official support or not, nothing has really changed in this regard.

AMD’s full statement is below.

AMD will be moving the AMD Radeon™ HD 2000, AMD Radeon HD 3000, and AMD Radeon HD 4000 Series of products to a new driver support model. We will continue to support the mentioned products in our Catalyst releases, but we’re moving their updates to a quarterly basis, whereas our AMD Radeon HD 5000 and later products will continue to see monthly updates. The Quarterly Catalyst releases will focus on resolving application specific issues and critical updates. The reason for the shift in support policy is largely due to the fact that the AMD Radeon HD 2000, AMD Radeon HD 3000, and AMD Radeon HD 4000 Series have been optimized to their maximum potential from a performance and feature perspective. The 8.97 based driver, released in May 2012 will be the first driver for the AMD Radeon HD 2000, AMD Radeon HD 3000, and AMD Radeon HD 4000 Series under the new support model; it is an extremely stable and robust driver branch for these products and will be the baseline for our quarterly updates.

Our main development and testing efforts will now be focused on the AMD Radeon™ HD 5000 and later products. This is the best use of our resources, as the AMD Radeon HD 5000, AMD Radeon HD 6000, AMD Radeon HD 7000, and future products have the greatest potential for further performance and feature enhancements.

Also with regards to Windows 8 support for the AMD Radeon™ HD 2000, 3000, 4000 Series of products; the In-the-box AMD Graphics driver that ships with Windows 8 will include support for the AMD Radeon HD 2000, 3000, and 4000 Series, and it will support the WDDM 1.1 driver level features. The AMD Catalyst driver for Windows 8 will only include support for WDDM 1.2 support products (AMD Radeon HD 5000 and later).

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5775/amd-hd-2000-hd-3000-hd-4000-gpus-being-moved-to-legacy-status-in-may



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 10/27/2012 07:17 PM
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The 4000 line is not nearly out of date - my 4890 runs like a champ and plays most games at 1080p no problem.

Some general help getting legacy drivers going under Win8:

http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=454&threadid=161814



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 10/27/2012 11:12 PM
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There are some really good deals on graphics cards now...without spending a arm and a leg, it is possible to upgrade your legacy cards to something newer. This is just a sample from Microcenter:

GV-R645-1GI AMD Radeon HD 6450 1024MB DDR3 PCIe 2.0 x16 Video Card

Usually ships in 1-3 business days.

$39.99
Save $5.00 / Originally $44.99
 

 

SKU:
847418
Mfr Part #:
GV-R645-1GI
UPC:
818313014962

Introducing the AMD Radeon HD 6450 Video Card. Integrated with the first 1GB DDR3 memory and 64-bit memory interface. Features Dual-link DVI-D, D-sub, and HDMI video outputs. GIGABYTE UD2 material. Support CrossFireX and AvivoHD.

 

 

Specifications

Chipset
Form Factor Low Profile Ready
GPU Manufacturer AMD
GPU Chipset Radeon HD 6450
Number of GPUs 1
Overclocked No
Core Clock Speed 625MHz
RAMDAC Clock Speed 400MHz
Shader Clock 1250MHz
Stream Processors 160
Maximum Digital Resolution 2560x1600
Maximum Analog Resolution 2048x1536
Max Monitors Supported 2
Memory
Video Memory 1024MB
Memory Type DDR3
Memory Clock Speed 550MHz (1100MHz Effective)
Memory Bus 64-bit
Memory Bandwidth 1.3GB/sec
General
OpenGL Support OpenGL 4.1
DirectX Support DirectX 11
Shader Model Support 5.0
ATI CrossFire Support AMD CrossFireX
HDCP Support HDCP Capable
3D Ready Yes
Cooling Fan
Features
Features AMD EyeSpeed; AMD CrossFireX; AMD Avivo HD
Audio/Video
Audio Playback 5.1 Channel Surround Sound (through HDMI connector)
Audio Input for HDMI Internal
Connectors
VGA 15-pin 1
DVI 1 x Dual-Link DVI-D
Dual Link DVI Support Yes
HDMI 1 x HDMI
System Requirements
Microsoft Certification Windows 7
Supported Windows Operating Systems Microsoft Windows XP, Vista, 7
Interface PCIe 2.0 x16
Thermal & Power
Power Supply Requirements 400 Watt Power Supply
Power Connectors None
Physical Specifications
Height 4.8"
Length 7.2"
Width Single Slot
Package Contents
What's in the Box Video Card, Drivers and Utilities Disc, Low-Profile Bracket, User Manual
Manufacturer Warranty
Warranty 3 Year Limited Warranty

 

 

 

 



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 10/28/2012 06:30 AM
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sorry, but i speak only in italian language.

ragazzi ma non l'avete capito che è solo una questione di marketing? Amd/Ati è rimasta ferma a 10 anni fa, sono ancora convinti che mosse di questo genere possano portare un utente a comprare un modello superiore, sempre Ati, per poter installare Windows 8 e poter giocare agli ultimi videogiochi. Non hanno capito che facendo così perdono solo clienti che passano ad NVIDIA, ma infatti potete vederlo dai dati dichiarati: Amd è sull'orlo del baratro....eppure continuano con questa politica assurda, peggio per loro.

Io sono un soddisfatto possessore di una Radeon HD 3870 512mb DDR4, riesco ancora a giocare gli ultimi videogiochi con un altissimo livello di dettaglio e prestazioni. Quando sarà il momento di cambiare scheda video, stati sicuri al 100% che non sarà una AMD

 10/28/2012 09:43 AM
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I have the Radeon HD 4350 and I have black bars around my screen. Under Windows 7, there were options for Overscan and Underscan that should fix the issue. But in the Catalyst Control Center, those options are not there. What gives??

 10/28/2012 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by: cm3g I have the Radeon HD 4350 and I have black bars around my screen. Under Windows 7, there were options for Overscan and Underscan that should fix the issue. But in the Catalyst Control Center, those options are not there. What gives??

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