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 08/27/2013 04:13 AM
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jcwild
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I have two 7990 cards.  I have just upgraded my drivers to the latest Catalyst 13.8 Beta 2 driver.  But my idle temps seem to be ridiculously high, and I'm worried the hardware is going to get damaged.

My temps are currently 72.2 & 84.0, and 75.0 & 78.0.  And the machine is idle.

I have run Process Explorer, and nothing is using the GPU more than 0.5%, and that's dwm.exe, so nothing unusual there.

The ambient temperature is about 18 degrees currently.  My case is a Corsair 600T with 2 intake fans and 2 outtake fans.

Anyone know what's up here?

Graphics Card

Gigabyte HD 7990 x 2 (standard clocks)

AMD Catalyst Driver Version, and Driver History
Previously using 13.4, have just upgraded to 13.8 Beta 2.  Temperatures were also very high on 13.4, but not as bad.

Operating System
Windows 7 x64

Issue Details
 
Idle temperatures seem to be hovering between 70 and 80 degrees.  As soon as I start using the GPU it shoots up to 100 or so

Motherboard or System Make & Model
ASRock Extreme 11

Power Supply

Corsair AX1200i

Display Device(s) and Connection(s) Used
Dell 3007WFP (37") + 2 x Dell 2007FP (21")
3007 connected using DL-DVI, 2007s connected using DisplayPort
All connected to primary card, second card connected via CrossFire

Applications and Games
Idle

CPU Details
i7-3930K, overclocked to 4.2GHz

Motherboard BIOS Version
Not sure

System Memory Type & Amount
32Gb Kingston @ 2133MHz

Additional Hardware
n/a

Additional Details
This is on a new build, which has AVG.  Also run Process Explorer to verify that nothing is actually using the graphics cards, they just seem to be running hot by themselves!



Edited: 08/27/2013 at 04:31 AM by jcwild
 08/27/2013 04:32 AM
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1. Revert to an older version and see if you see any difference.

Yes: Stick to it and report the issue.

No: Go on to #2.

 

2. Remove the cards from the computer and clean the fans, apply new thermal paste and make sure power connectors are not oxidated. If they are, clean them as well.



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 08/27/2013 04:54 AM
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Ok, have run the AMD clean utility to remove 13.8, and have reinstalled 13.4.  Idle temp is now 61.0 & 41.0 and 52.0 & 44.0, which seems much more sensible (although I would have thought 61 was still quite high just for running Windows Desktop?)

What temps do others have when just idling?

 08/27/2013 05:36 AM
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My idle GPU temp is 42°C, though it's a single card and has a very effective cooler. Fan speed is 22%, ambient temp is approx. 25°C.



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 08/27/2013 02:55 PM
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Those temps do seem high. If it was me, I would try to get more air flow into the case. I also regularly take a can of air to blow dust out of the inside and fans, along with vacuuming the inside first, and any fan covers on the outside.

I would make sure the intake fans are sucking in enough air, and don't have too much stuff blocking the air flow. Maybe consider getting more powerful intake fans.

It seems that there is a different fan profile between 13.4 and 13.8. Or are you running a 3rd party software to control fan speed?

 08/27/2013 03:20 PM
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I'm wondering if it's just not enough air too.  I'm going to try replacing the 200mm side fan with 4 x 120mm performance fans, and see if that does the trick.

Video card fans should be left as standard.

 08/27/2013 04:34 PM
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I idle at about 39°C and 32°C Diode and VRM, respectively. Dual GPU cards are going to run hotter, especially the top card due to the bottom one blocking the air intake. Idle temps don't mean nearly as much on a GPU as your load temps, as a GPU is perfectly fine even at 90°C and because at idle the fans are only spinning at around 20%, so my question would be under a typical load (NOT Furmark or Kombustor.)

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 08/30/2013 05:58 AM
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My 60 degree idle is with fans at 30%.

 08/30/2013 11:33 AM
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The Idle temps increases with each additional monitor you have plugged into the GFX card.

Try testing with just 1 Monitor to start. You should see a drop from 60.



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 09/02/2013 10:18 AM
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Yep thats crazy hot at idle, I have 2 7870 with 13.8 beta 2, idle temps 26-24.. 68 max @ full load.

Try changing fan placement, I took a fan out the top of my case as it was making my cpu run hotter, maybe the side fan is having a negative impact on the cards cooling abilities.



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Edited: 09/02/2013 at 10:34 AM by M0n0LiF
 09/02/2013 10:55 PM
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I have the same case. It is one of the best but I thought I was "packing" it!!  You have REALLY loaded it.  Replace the Corsair 200mm top and 200mm intake with Spectre Pro LED fans...quiet with way more airflow. 

In your setup you may want to consider having the top 200mm as  exhaust.  Corners on the (TOP) fan need to be cut off with a Dremel to get it to fit (check your motherboard clearance, first of course).  Intake will fit but you will need to reverse the HDD cages for clearance.

Velcro a 120mm PWM fan *outside the case* where your cards are connected to draw additional hot air away from the cards. 

Replace the Corsair exhaust fan in the rear of the case with a Panaflo or Cougar PWM.

Get some foam weather stripping and wrap around a more powerful 120mm PWM fan to make a reasonably airtight bulkhead and place in your optical bay and direct the airflow in the direction of the cards.

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Edited: 09/03/2013 at 11:27 PM by UcouldBrong
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