Topic Title: 13.8 beta2 - hdmi audio bug still here
Topic Summary: amd just didn't care to REALLY fix the hdmi audio dropout bug
Created On: 08/31/2013 06:34 AM
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 08/31/2013 06:34 AM
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I have been using ccc 13.6 for a long time - then saw 13.8 b1 and updated ...

huge mistake:

-net framework 4.5 (another MS crap to the system which needs 100+mb updates every month)

-driver crashes (driver stopped messages) -> this is solved in 13.8 b2

-and the old and famous hdmi audio bug ... even on the desktop I hear the small clicks constantly, ~ every 3rd/4th second ...

-tried to revert back to 13.6/13.4/13.1's hdmi driver but no luck. did a fresh install of the driver (cleaned all amd related stuff and installed with/without the hdmi driver ... very same bug, the clicking sound ... )

-> it is clearly not the bug in the hdmi driver but in some other component

 

Nice work AMD, you fixed it some months ago and now here it is again!



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 08/31/2013 06:45 AM
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Is there any particular reason to use HDMI audio? I can't even think of a motherboard these days that doesn't have an integrated sound card. Also TVs don't usually have the best speakers.



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 08/31/2013 06:49 AM
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no need for another cable

and to the tv I have a headphone connected which I usually use (family...) - of course with that the problem is even more annoying

the integrated soundcards on the motherboards have even cheaper D/As, often can hear the HDDs working sound through the earphone, etc - terrible!

+ would need another analog cable to the tv/earphone ... don't see the reason



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 08/31/2013 07:17 AM
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I see. Have you tried the Realtek HDMI audio driver? That surely does not change when Catalyst drivers do.

Also how about just sticking to the HDMI audio driver from 13.6 and using display drivers from the newer package? Custom install is there for a reason, you can select components you want to install.

I know, neither one is a fix for the driver problam, but good workarounds that can last until an actual fix comes.



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 08/31/2013 07:20 AM
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Tried that, see my initial post:

"-tried to revert back to 13.6/13.4/13.1's hdmi driver but no luck. did a fresh install of the driver (cleaned all amd related stuff and installed with/without the hdmi driver ... very same bug, the clicking sound ...  "

 

I would be happy if there would be a workaround ... this is a beta, I can accept that. But the small pops drives me crazy



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 08/31/2013 07:31 AM
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Well, this is strange indeed. Keep using the issue reportng form and provide as much details as you can.



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 08/31/2013 07:53 AM
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done that already - I just hope someone here might know a workaround ...



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 08/31/2013 08:02 AM
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The workaround is using the drivers that work for you. Not that any driver release in the last few years made any significant difference. We usually upgrade for the sake of upgrading rather than to achieve anything. Have you ever noticed any difference after a driver update? I haven't, apart for UI changes in CCC every now and then.



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 08/31/2013 08:08 AM
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I wanted to benefit from speed improvements ... is that a bad thing?



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 08/31/2013 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by: arty I wanted to benefit from speed improvements ... is that a bad thing?

 

Nope. The real question is: Is there any speed benefit there at all? Did you experience anything being noticably faster after upgrading?



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 08/31/2013 08:44 AM
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this is AMD's way to tell you : go for nvidia noob

no they can not keep up anymore, the issues are going to stockpile as time goes on, I do not see how they can reverse the tendency at this point

I have seen such tendency in a few companies before and it did not end well for them



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 08/31/2013 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by: CobraSA this is AMD's way to tell you : go for nvidia noob

 

no they can not keep up anymore, the issues are going to stockpile as time goes on, I do not see how they can reverse the tendency at this point

 

I have seen such tendency in a few companies before and it did not end well for them

 

Remember Fermi? Remember Geforce FX? There are downhills and uphills in the life of all companies. It doesn't mean one is better than the other. Actually there's only one thing nvidia is better at: linux drivers.



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 08/31/2013 09:29 AM
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my hatred against nvidia's physix-philosophy is bigger than against amd's current driver issues

to be honest, with 13.6 I had no issues at all with any of the games I play. I thought I can get some speddup here&there only.



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 08/31/2013 01:56 PM
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granted nvidia isn't any better and may be in fact worse, yet I feel like I will have to "punish" AMD when the time to change my gfx card will come, just like I punished several software companies for making worse and worse products

I will never be a simple minded fanboy and even after using a brand for a decade, if the product becomes bad, the punishment will be issued, got to do what you got to do for the companies to update their profitability algorithms



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 08/31/2013 02:40 PM
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I bought nvidia after my 4850 (dx10/hdmi issues: black border, 24hz, etc), as amd didn't give a sh*t

but after some months I bought a 6850 as nv had serious driver issues too ( (for hdmi audio I had to reg-hack after every driver update - nonsense!)

had no issues with 6850, then 6870, then 6950@6970 and with the 7950 I had the hdmi sound issues some months ago with a driver ... 13.4/13.6 solved it, but with 13.8 it is back ((



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 08/31/2013 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by: arty I bought nvidia after my 4850 (dx10/hdmi issues: black border, 24hz, etc), as amd didn't give a sh*t

 

but after some months I bought a 6850 as nv had serious driver issues too ( (for hdmi audio I had to reg-hack after every driver update - nonsense!)

 

had no issues with 6850, then 6870, then 6950@6970 and with the 7950 I had the hdmi sound issues some months ago with a driver ... 13.4/13.6 solved it, but with 13.8 it is back ((

 

Conclusion: You buy too many video cards.



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CPU: Pentium 4 Northwood S478 @ 3200MHz | RAM: 1,5GB DDR 400| MoBo: Gigabyte GA-8S661FXMP-RZ | GPU: ASUS Radeon X1650 Pro 256MB | Display: Dimarson 19" CRT | PSU: Noname 400W | OS: changing twice every week...

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true

(I even forgot my MSI 7850 TwinFrozr which was my favourite after the noisy 6950@6970! unfortunatelly under crysis3 it suffered ... I thought 7950 will solve that - but it didn't. that game eats every gpu except sli/cf config of the top cards. OK, now I am totally offtopic, so ...)

 

AMD please make a perfect, WHQL driver for god's sake!



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