Topic Title: AMD Drivers Bug: Fallout ENB
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 10/06/2013 10:04 AM
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MajinCry
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It's a common issue that AMD's drivers do not work with the latest ENB releases for Fallout 3/New Vegas; the issue is that the drivers just crash the game and possibly any other programs that are open.

 

Does anyone have any information as to when, or even if, this problem will be fixed? It would be pitiful if AMD would just waive it as a user-side issue, even though it has been demonstrated to be an issue with AMD's drivers.

 

And yes, it happens to ALL of AMD's drivers; it's not just a select few.

 

Discuss, plead, cry, etc. Wonder if we can get an AMD Rep. to elaborate on the issue.



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 10/06/2013 11:05 AM
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I don't know if it's a 'common problem' as you are the first to squeal about it. Since you furnish no information requested in "PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING" this user-to-user forum we feel free to assume you have Windows 98 and a HD 800xp card. If you want to report the issue to AMD, then do like everyone else and use the "Issue Report Form" that is on EVERY driver download page. Then if enough people with this issue report it...and it is reproducible...then there is a good chance it will be addressed in the next update or beta.



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 10/06/2013 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by: MajinCry even though it has been demonstrated to be an issue with AMD's drivers

Links, please. You should also post what stumped said.

 

Well, without seeing your links, here's what I think. From what I know, ENB is a d3d proxy dll, the same as I usually make to override some d3d features like vsync, AA etc in certain cases, and add 16:9 support for some old games (like ROTK for example).

So I know these dlls a bit. I know that they can compile and run with whatever driver I want to use them, so it must be a d3d setting they change that crashes the games. So how about not changing those settings or using a workaround.

I think this is more like the developer using nvidia-specific settings, rather than a real driver issue. Prove me wrong, please. Post those links. And source code, if possible.



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 10/08/2013 10:42 AM
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Ak, completely forgot about this until just now; engaging in discussion with Boris (creator of ENB).

Link determining that it's the drivers: http://enbseries.enbdev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2345

In that thread, there are people who type that the newest ENB versions for the Fallout games doesn't work for them; gives a black screen/scrash as soon as the 3D models are loaded. They are all using HD 7000 series GPUs.

Others type that it worked for them; they're using 6000 series and older AMD GPUs.

I won't be able to get the source from Boris, but if you ask and attest to why you want the source, he might give it to you. Don't hold me to that, though.

I'll quickly put my specs in my sig; I ain't using some outdated piece of hardware or anything; the issue has been found to be with the HD 7000 series. Fresh installs and all that troubleshooting jazz.

 

Edit: If you don't know the details about AMD, it's a wrapper which overrides certain DirectX commands in favour of more hardware-intensive yet graphically superior functions of a similar nature. Link: http://www.enbdev.com/index_en.html



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Edited: 10/08/2013 at 10:54 AM by MajinCry
 10/08/2013 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by: MajinCryLink determining that it's the drivers: http://enbseries.enbdev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2345

 

Unfortunately, not. He's just saying it's a driver bug, and also an MSI Afterburner bug. Everyone would blame other software if they couldn't fix an issue. I know I would.

I was hoping for some technical details. What exactly triggers the crash etc. Maybe this Boris guy has no AMD hardware to test with.

I suggest you ENB users start donating him so he can get one.

Also if he really-really thinks it's a driver bug and can prove it, he should contact AMD himself with debug analysis and stuff like that. One thing is certain, AMD won't do a thing as long as some users report an assumption on the community forums.



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 10/17/2013 05:47 AM
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Actually, I came to post about this issue as well.  It seems to be a common one with this ENB, as you can find a bunch of posts on newvegasnexus, for instance.  To be specific, you get the crash reported in the "How To" section of this forum: http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=444&threadid=166704&enterthread=y

I also have a 7000 series, and it seems to be exclusive to that set, from the posts I've read.  Unfortunately for us, Boris' first language isn't english, which makes the communication of issues difficult at times.

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