Topic Title: It say Vista on the Box. AMD/SAPPHIRE this is NOT OK
Topic Summary:
Created On: 12/10/2013 09:02 PM
Status: Post and Reply
Linear : Threading : Single : Branch
Search Topic Search Topic
Topic Tools Topic Tools
View similar topics View similar topics
View topic in raw text format. Print this topic.
 12/10/2013 09:02 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
Acumen
Peon

Posts: 1
Joined: 12/10/2013

I am furious. You have no idea the issues I have had getting these cards here, the money wasted and time lost. It has been a horrible experience. NewEgg has lost all respect from me. AMD, Sapphire, it's not looking good for you either.

IT SAYS WINDOWS VISTA ON THE SAPPHIRE WEBSITE AND RIGHT ON THE R9 290 BOX.

This is NOT acceptable. Honestly AMD give me a copy of Windows or a working driver tonight. I don't know what else to say.

I see the thread about editing values to hack it together. That is not an acceptable solution to me when we are talking about cards that are $400+ each. I expect them to WORK AS ADVERTISED. And do not want to be liable for destorying these cards. If that is a fix, AMD release it as a fix.

I am out of a money as a result of all of this delay. I may even look into legal action, because this is fraud plain and simple.

 

 

 12/10/2013 09:14 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
black_zion
80 Column Mind

Posts: 13071
Joined: 04/17/2008

In the time it took you to register and post that, you could change a 1 to a 0 and have working drivers in Vista....

-------------------------
AMD FX-8350 w/ Corsair H105, ASUS Sabertooth 990FX Gen3/R2, 8GiB G.SKILL DDR3-2133, XFX HD 7970, 512GB Vertex 4, 256GB Vector, 240GB Agility 3, Creative X-Fi Titanium w/ Creative Gigaworks S750, SeaSonic X750, Corsair C70, HP ZR2440w, Win 7 Ultimate x64
 12/11/2013 07:42 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
Eydee
Ninja Zombie Killer

Posts: 4905
Joined: 12/27/2008

At the basic level you're right. Vista shouldn't be advertised as supported. However, Newegg and Sapphire have so much money, they can hire the best lawyers. They can counter-sue you and take even your house...

Question is, why buy the latest ultra high-end card for an OS that belongs to museums? If you do that, you probably like to live dangerously... A bit of driver modding is nothing compared to that.



-------------------------

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 810 @ 3120MHz | RAM: Kingmax 2x2GB DDR2 800 @ 833MHz| MoBo: MSI K9A2 CF v1.0 (BIOS: 1.D)| GPU: Asus HD 6850 1024MB (DirectCu) @ 835/1135MHz | Display: L24FHD | PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad | OS: MS Windows 3.11 Pro x64

 12/12/2013 03:41 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
goodplay
Cookie Monster

Posts: 444
Joined: 08/21/2011

And yet,if you look at download page on sapphire ,no results for vista downloads.I guess something else that prospective buyers should check into.



-------------------------

i5 3570k(@4.5)./ga-z77x-ud5h-wb./hyper T4./2 x 4gb vengeance 1600 c8./sapphire dualX 7970 3gb OC boost v2./1tb WD FAEX Black./lg bh10 blu-ray r.w../corsair hx850./antec df30./z506 spkrs./lg e2240v./win 8(8.1) pro x64 

 12/12/2013 08:48 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
black_zion
80 Column Mind

Posts: 13071
Joined: 04/17/2008

Technically it is compatible with Vista though, it's just that people have to go through an extra couple of steps. I went through the same thing when I used Windows 2000, it used Windows XP drivers, but sometimes required a little tweaking to install.

-------------------------
AMD FX-8350 w/ Corsair H105, ASUS Sabertooth 990FX Gen3/R2, 8GiB G.SKILL DDR3-2133, XFX HD 7970, 512GB Vertex 4, 256GB Vector, 240GB Agility 3, Creative X-Fi Titanium w/ Creative Gigaworks S750, SeaSonic X750, Corsair C70, HP ZR2440w, Win 7 Ultimate x64
 12/12/2013 11:19 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
Eydee
Ninja Zombie Killer

Posts: 4905
Joined: 12/27/2008

Originally posted by: black_zion Technically it is compatible with Vista though, it's just that people have to go through an extra couple of steps. I went through the same thing when I used Windows 2000, it used Windows XP drivers, but sometimes required a little tweaking to install.

Funny thing is, you can even mod current (or not so old) XP drivers to work with win2k. There's a guy called Blackwingcat releasing these modded drivers for may years. I learned the basics of driver modding by studying his releases.



-------------------------

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 810 @ 3120MHz | RAM: Kingmax 2x2GB DDR2 800 @ 833MHz| MoBo: MSI K9A2 CF v1.0 (BIOS: 1.D)| GPU: Asus HD 6850 1024MB (DirectCu) @ 835/1135MHz | Display: L24FHD | PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad | OS: MS Windows 3.11 Pro x64

 12/14/2013 12:50 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
GrimREMAr
Peon

Posts: 17
Joined: 11/12/2013

I modded my drivers ...thanks to Eydee

This required me to trust a complete stranger and believe that they knew what they were doing and that they intended not to do anything malicious. Not always an easy step.

However why don't AMD do this and simply release them as Vista drivers...

Vista has probably been my most stable win OS (that's from win 98 onwards) Hate my son's win 8 and his win 7 feels like vista for all instance and purposes.

It works , it's still MS supported.......it's still on the box , which means that someone buying a GPU indicating that Vista was supported would be resonable  in expecting updated drivers to be supplied, which is a posistion that I think would hold up very well in a consumer court.

 12/14/2013 03:17 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
Eydee
Ninja Zombie Killer

Posts: 4905
Joined: 12/27/2008

Originally posted by: GrimREMAr This required me to trust a complete stranger and believe that they knew what they were doing and that they intended not to do anything malicious.

Believe me, if I could do anything malicious using a text file, I would...



-------------------------

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 810 @ 3120MHz | RAM: Kingmax 2x2GB DDR2 800 @ 833MHz| MoBo: MSI K9A2 CF v1.0 (BIOS: 1.D)| GPU: Asus HD 6850 1024MB (DirectCu) @ 835/1135MHz | Display: L24FHD | PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad | OS: MS Windows 3.11 Pro x64

 12/14/2013 05:18 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
GrimREMAr
Peon

Posts: 17
Joined: 11/12/2013

Eydee...I am glad you put the smiley at the end..

Just to make it clear...I never intended  in the slightest to suggest that you'd do anything untowards...

Just a quick question for the future ..can my modded drivers be uninstalled like normal through Control Panel/AMD Catalyst Install Manager...

 

again thanks for the tutorial

 12/14/2013 05:57 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
Eydee
Ninja Zombie Killer

Posts: 4905
Joined: 12/27/2008

Originally posted by: GrimREMAr Just a quick question for the future ..can my modded drivers be uninstalled like normal through Control Panel/AMD Catalyst Install Manager...

I'm not sure. In theory the install manager should detect the drivers and offer to uninstall them. In theory. I never checked as it doesn't matter for two reasons:

#1: New drivers can easily be installed on top of the previous one without a hitch. I don't think anyone would want to uninstall just to revert to the standard VGA driver.

#2: Even if CIM fails to list the installed driver, Device Manager won't. Uninstalling the same way as installing shouldn't be an issue.

Unfortunately I currently have neither time nor hardware to test, but you can easily. Just start CIM from Programs and Features and select modify. If the display driver is listed, then it can be uninstalled by CIM.



-------------------------

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 810 @ 3120MHz | RAM: Kingmax 2x2GB DDR2 800 @ 833MHz| MoBo: MSI K9A2 CF v1.0 (BIOS: 1.D)| GPU: Asus HD 6850 1024MB (DirectCu) @ 835/1135MHz | Display: L24FHD | PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad | OS: MS Windows 3.11 Pro x64

Statistics
88795 users are registered to the AMD Support and Game forum.
There are currently 1 users logged in.

FuseTalk Hosting Executive Plan v3.2 - © 1999-2014 FuseTalk Inc. All rights reserved.