Topic Title: Windows 8: The Next WindowsME?
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 09/02/2012 03:51 PM
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I downloaded the Windows 8 Release Preview and put it on a spare pc.

Its a little difficult finding anything.

Going from XP to Win 7 seemed a lot easier then 7 to 8. I'll keep picking away at it and see what happens. But I really like Windows 7 so no hurry switching over thats for sure.



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the windows 7 interface is available in the rtm edition.i like the hyper-v virtual tools included in win 8.



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 09/03/2012 06:00 AM
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okay just for the hell of it, I installed win 8 (something) on a VM and honestly, why release it for desktop?, I mean seriously!, no seriously!?, I dont think I'm making myself clear. I AM SERIOUS WHY EVEN RELEASE IT FOR PC!?

I uninstalled it after 20 mins and installed bodhi linux, and I said to myself "I am sooo hungry".
 09/03/2012 09:06 AM
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reply to this question to prove that you are not a bot:

"What is this forum about and how do I look?"
 09/03/2012 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by: orn reply to this question to prove that you are not a bot: "What is this forum about and how do I look?"

 

Yes, the Witch Hunte....errr.... Mods want to know.



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Well, seeing as the link is a hotel/appartment website promoting NYE parties in Romania, it's 100% a spambot or user needing the $0.001/click thru revenue to escape from that 3rd world heap.



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Originally posted by: fretboard Well, seeing as the link is a hotel/appartment website promoting NYE parties in Romania, it's 100% a spambot or user needing the $0.001/click thru revenue to escape from that 3rd world heap.

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 09/09/2012 10:21 AM
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Well, I knew it wouldn't be long until someone came up with a workaround for the "metro" interface. Now here is one > http://gizmodo.com/5941671/keep-windows-8-tiles-at-bay-with-retroui



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 09/09/2012 04:41 PM
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the retroui imho is useless coz the start button is on the metro interface.

win8 is gonna be the lid and the all the nails for microsoft's coffin I think.
 09/17/2012 11:43 AM
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I tried Win8 on a spare PC too. I was curius to see what Microsoft was thinking. For my self I have some possitive and negative experience. 

First of all the surprising thing is that my parents were able to navigate (using the UI) very easyly. Okay, they had experience from the owfull Vista but you cann't say that if someone who isn't an extensive PC user (eg: parents-most cases-) can go from one UI to an other. So I would dare to say that althought the Metro UI is looking stupid for some people will be easy to use because of the large icons or tiles. 

Personaly I wasn't extited from the new OS. For starters I wasn't able to find all the settings. Even when you go back to the familiar Win7 UI. It took me some time to find most of them, after a while I gave up. Ususaly (my opinion) when you great a new OS you try to keep the old familiar UI. Example, all Windows from 98 to 7, all had the same UI (a few changes were made but not very extensive).

I wouldn't like to see the Windows 8 go down, besides we just have tried the Beta verision, all I can do is to pray (basicaly because I pre order two copies XD XD XD)



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 10/31/2012 09:52 AM
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one other thing that really buggered me. Why do you have to have an active net connection and a windows live/hotmail account just to access your desktop?. It makes no sense to logical people.

And what got me all knickered up is this whole Windows 8 UEFI Secure Boot fiasco. Surely the supreme courts will not allow this pathetic act of desperation from microsoft by locking low level hardware to to only win8.

M$ seems really desperate.
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Originally posted by: stumped Well, I knew it wouldn't be long until someone came up with a workaround for the "metro" interface. Now here is one > http://gizmodo.com/5941671/keep-windows-8-tiles-at-bay-with-retroui

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33642_7-57543008-292/win8-startbutton-gets-your-start-menu-back-in-windows-8/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=title



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 10/31/2012 12:47 PM
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You guy's see a pattern here with windows?

 

Win98, not bad

WinME, really bad OS

XP, really good

Vista, sucked!

Win7, really good!

Win8, .......

 



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 10/31/2012 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by: Slayerx You guy's see a pattern here with windows?

 

Win98, not bad

WinME, really bad OS

XP, really good

Vista, sucked!

Win7, really good!

Win8, .......

 

Yup...I wish there was a way to read the posts/issues on this forum the week that Vista was introduced. Bet it would be similar.



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 11/01/2012 01:26 PM
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I bet it was worse.

I remember upgrading from XP to Vista when vista first came out, What a freaking nightmare that was.

 



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Originally posted by: black_zion I've never liked the idea of cloud computing or online file storage myself.

Same here, I think it is a terrible idea from a security/privacy point ov view. It's probably best to concider everything uploaded to cloud storage as "made freely availavle". I can already see people getting heart attacks when they notice shortly after uploaded their home made video collection, that the sex clip they recorded with their girlfriend is all over the web and that all their work buddies and neighbors saw it^^



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Windows 8 sales 'well below' projections, report claims

Windows 8 isn't flying off the shelves in the numbers Microsoft was hoping for, according to a report.

November 16, 2012 5:38 PM PST

 

Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer shows off an Acer touch-capable laptop late last month.

Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer shows off an Acer touch-capable laptop late last month.

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Windows 8 may not be selling nearly as well as Microsoft projected, according to a report.

"Sales ofWindows 8 PCs are well below Microsoft's internal projections and have been described inside the company as disappointing," Paul Thurrott wrote on his Supersite For Windows today, citing a source inside Microsoft.

The culprit? "Lackluster PC maker designs and availability," according to Thurrott.

But he lists plenty of other reasons too, including Windows 8 itself as "confusing" because of its mix of touch and a standardWindows 7 desktop.

And he cites the simultaneous release of Windows 8 Pro and Windows RT as problematic.

Though Windows 8 Pro can run older Windows software, Windows RT cannot, which "doesn't make a lick of sense," according to Thurrott.

Roger Kay, principal analyst at EndPoint Technologies, agrees. "The split between the Windows 8 Pro and RT versions makes the positioning of Windows 8 difficult," Kay said to CNET on Friday.

Kay continued: "The new touch interface is really fantastic for the high-mobility market, liketablets. But turn the whole world upside down for a few tablets?"

Microsoft, at least publicly, doesn't seem to agree with these assessments. CEO Steve Ballmer, speaking at the Churchill Club in Santa Clara, Calif., this week, said Windows is off to a spectacular start.

And at Microsoft's Build conference last month, Ballmer boasted that 4 million copies had been sold in the few days since launch on October 26.

But there have been other reports about a lack of interest in upgrading to Windows 8.

While a general lack of immediate interest in a new operating system is not unusual, based on past Microsoft OS rollouts, the barrier may be higher this time because of the touch-centric interface, particularly at businesses, according to Kay.

Kay did add that it will take a few months for retail stores to roll over all new PCs to Windows 8. So it won't be until January of next year that Windows 8 is fully represented at retail.

And sales of the Microsoft Surface tablet seem to be doing OK. Initially, the 32GB model was sold out for about a week.

Microsoft, when contacted, did not comment on the report.



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 11/18/2012 11:23 AM
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I have to say one good thing about win8 is that you don't have to re-install it when you switch mobo's. Now I don't know if you can do that with the full version but I just did it with the preveiw.I installed win8 on a old pc just to see how it did with old hardware (Athlonx2 5600+, radeon X1650) well... it sucked, anyhow since I'm waiting for my new mobo to show up I switched out the mobo with the one in my sig with a 955x4 and a radeon HD 4650 and of cource I forget to set it to boot from the DVD rom, well when I got back with my coffee windows is up and running! No formatting, no re-installing anything (ok maybe just the video driver)Now thats nice!!

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Design guru Nielsen: Windows 8 UI 'smothers usability'

Jakob Nielsen says that Microsoft's new operating system is plagued by "hidden features [and] reduced discoverability," among other issues.

November 19, 2012 5:31 AM PST

 

Windows 8

Windows 8

(Credit: Screenshot by Stephen Shankland/CNET)

User interface design guru Jakob Nielsen is none too pleased with what he's found inWindows 8, which he calls a "misguided" product.

Nielsen, who has spent much of his career analyzing all kinds of user interfaces, including most notably Flash software for Web animation, says that the new Windows 8 user interface "smothers usability with big colorful tiles while hiding needed features."

To arrive at that conclusion, Nielsen brought in 12 "experienced PC users" to try out Windows on both PCs and Surface RTtablets. In that study, Nielsen found that the users took issue with the operating system's supposed "duality" that includes a tablet-focused Start screen and a more traditional "PC-oriented desktop screen." According to Nielsen, those different design concepts force users to "remember where to go for which features." In addition, the duality creates an "inconsistent user experience," hurting overall usability.

Microsoft launched Windows 8 late last month. The operating system is a major departure from previous versions of the software, ditching the traditional start button and design for a tile-based system. Microsoft says that the new design will increase usability. Many people who used the software, however, have criticized it for a steep learning curve that impacts both novices and experienced PC users.

Speaking of experienced users, Nielsen said his study revealed that those folks were downright confused by a software called Windows not actually supporting windows.

 

"Windows" no longer supports multiple windows on the screen. Win8 does have an option to temporarily show a second area in a small part of the screen, but none of our test users were able to make this work. Also, the main UI restricts users to a single window, so the product ought to be renamed "Microsoft Window."

 

That lack of multiple window support forced Nielsen to dub it "one of the worst aspects of Windows 8 for power users."

In the end, Nielsen believes that Microsoft has focused on tablets with Windows 8 to the detriment of PCs. He argues that while Windows 8 is "weak on tablets," it's "terrible for PCs," adding that "on a regular PC, Windows 8 is Mr. Hyde: a monster that terrorizes poor office workers and strangles their productivity."

Of course, this isn't the first time we've heard complaints of a steep learning curve in Windows 8. When CNET senior editor Seth Rosenblatt reviewed the operating system last month, he noted that "the learning curve is steep and in-app navigation isn't obvious." Overall, however, he gave the operating system four stars out of five, earning it an "excellent" rating.

Nielsen softens the blow a little at the end of his account. "I happen to think thatWindows 7 is a good product and that Windows 8 is a misguided one," he wrote. "I'll stay with Win7 the next few years and hope for better times with Windows 9. One great thing about Microsoft is that they do have a history of correcting their mistakes."



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 11/19/2012 10:25 PM
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OK after battling windows 8 for a couple days now I've come to the conclution that 8 SUCKS!!!!!!

 

I'm sticking with seven!!!! 



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