Topic Title: FX CPU upgrade Advice - Please see full description
Topic Summary: AMD Service Request: {ticketno:[8200558954]}
Created On: 09/10/2013 11:05 AM
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 09/10/2013 11:05 AM
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alan_FX8150
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I have emailed AMD Processor support on the 16 aug, 02 sep but only had an auto-reply on the 06 sep to give me the Service request ID - but I cant reply to the AMD email or follow up the request. So....

Here was my message that I hope people can help me with:

Good afternoon AMD,
 
I'm already a proud owner of an AMD FX 8150 which is 0.8Ghz (22.2'%) OC'd to 4.4Ghz with 1.4v (260 BUS x17 Multiplier).
 
I'm currently using an Antec Kuhler 1220 for the CPU cooler (temp reaching 45 degree's max using Prime95) but will be upgrading to a top spec custom water cooled solution soon. I've just upgraded my RAM and want to ask for some help with what the best CPU will be?
 
The FX 9590 is a little too expensive so I'm looking at the FX 9370. I'd read its an FX 8350 but just with a higher base clock and power usage? My FX 8150 produces 223 TDP already anyway* :-) ...
So basically: I'm looking for better performance and lower temperatures for an FX 9370 running with the base clock @ 4.4 Ghz, than my OC'd FX 8150 @ 4.4Ghz
...So then I can look at OC'ing the FX 9370 with my watercooling… to hopefully reach 5Ghz stable for day to day basis?
 
I know there are a couple of questions but I would greatly appreciate it if you could get back to me regarding my concerns.
  • Performance increase with Multi  & Single Threaded
  • Unlocked Core Frequency limit ('Can' I Overclock the FX 9370 by 0.977Ghz (22.2'%) to near 5.4Ghz like I have with the FX 8150?)
 
Best regards and many thanks,
Alan


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MOBO:____ASUS Crosshair V Formula
Sound:____ASUS Xonar D2X 7.1
CPU:______AMD FX-8150 8 Core (Stable OC) @ 4.4Ghz - 1.4v
RAM:______32GB G-Skill Trident CL8
GPU:______Galaxy GeForce GTX 680 GC (4GB)
PSU:______Antec Truepower Quattro 1200W
Cooler:____Antec Kuhler H2O 1220
Case:_____Antec 1200 v3
OS HDD:__Corsair Force Series 3 240GB SSD



Edited: 09/13/2013 at 10:11 AM by alan_FX8150
 09/13/2013 04:43 AM
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I've realised that this post may be in the wrong place but I cant see any way to move it.

Are there any moderators that can:

  1. Move the thread, if needed 
  2. Reply to my post above /
  3. Reply to my emails /
  4. Speak to AMD processor support on my behalf /
  5. Answer this query from nearly a month ago??

I've always been an AMD customer but lets be honest, after:

  • The lack of a response
  • Lack of an avenue for me to chase a response
  • Your ticket confirmation but lack of a follow up... yet... I optimistically await a reply. 

I cant say that I'm a happy customer right now; and its a shame.

I hope 'sincerely' to hear from you soon.

If there are any users out there that can help with my query, please do, it'll be very appreciated.

Best Regards,

Alan



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MOBO:____ASUS Crosshair V Formula
Sound:____ASUS Xonar D2X 7.1
CPU:______AMD FX-8150 8 Core (Stable OC) @ 4.4Ghz - 1.4v
RAM:______32GB G-Skill Trident CL8
GPU:______Galaxy GeForce GTX 680 GC (4GB)
PSU:______Antec Truepower Quattro 1200W
Cooler:____Antec Kuhler H2O 1220
Case:_____Antec 1200 v3
OS HDD:__Corsair Force Series 3 240GB SSD



Edited: 09/13/2013 at 10:21 AM by alan_FX8150
 09/14/2013 06:53 AM
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I've had a good response from my AMD support request, thank youDear Alan,Your service request : SR #{ticketno:[8200558954]} has been reviewed and updated.Response and Service Request History:We apologize for the delay. Your e-mail was misplaced by our server and was only now reclaimed and sent to the Global Customer Care team. We are very sorry for the lack of response and extended wait time in dealing with your request.While the FX-9370 and FX-9590 are both Piledriver-based CPUs, it would not be possible to just overclock an 8350 and force another 95W of power through it. So while it does follow the same architecture as the 8350, that architecture is found on all Piledrivers from the FX-4300 up to the 9590.The main reason that we recommend liquid cooling for the 9590/9370 is because the 220W power consumption can cause serious heat issues when running at high load. The normal 8350 only uses 125W of power and at stock clocks, the stock fan is more than sufficient. When overclocking (unsupported), it would be wise to look at after-market cooling (also unsupported), since those CPUs can get pretty hot pretty quickly. The only real advantage of the 9370 compared to your 8150 is that the default runs at 4.4, and can be overclocked through AMD software to 4.7 (and likely close to 4.9-5.0 by some enthusiasts), but that type of heat definitely needs some dissipation, which is why a liquid cooler would be a good way to go. This is not based on bad reviews or anything else, just that 220W of power going into something running that fast needs adequate cooling, and liquid cooling is far more efficient in that regard.If you have any other questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to reply to this e-mail directly and I will try to provide any additional information that you may require. Thank you for contacting AMD!In order to update this service request, please respond, leaving the service request reference intact.Best regards,AMD Global Customer Care

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MOBO:____ASUS Crosshair V Formula
Sound:____ASUS Xonar D2X 7.1
CPU:______AMD FX-8150 8 Core (Stable OC) @ 4.4Ghz - 1.4v
RAM:______32GB G-Skill Trident CL8
GPU:______Galaxy GeForce GTX 680 GC (4GB)
PSU:______Antec Truepower Quattro 1200W
Cooler:____Antec Kuhler H2O 1220
Case:_____Antec 1200 v3
OS HDD:__Corsair Force Series 3 240GB SSD

 09/14/2013 11:14 AM
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The FX 9000 series is a joke. The only difference you would notice between 4.4ghz and 5.0ghz is a much hotter room and a larger electric bill.

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 09/14/2013 11:17 AM
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Mines already running at 223TDP (See screenshot in 1st post above) and mine doesnt go above 45 degree's - although I have an intergrated water cooler (Antec 1220) and a hell of a lot of fans. When I upgrade to watercooling, it'll be even more temperature resistant so I cant complain.The 9370 will allow more headroom over the 8150. Its better than my CPU (which won the guiness book of world records for highest frequency) so an upgrade is an upgrade, either way mate

I was considering going for an 8350, but fr the sake of waiting a tiny bit longer and getting a higher rated CPU, I'm going to get the 9370 as my water cooling plan will be more than enough for it. I guess I want to kit out my mobo with the best equipment possible, I cant justify a 9590 but I can with a 9370



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MOBO:____ASUS Crosshair V Formula
Sound:____ASUS Xonar D2X 7.1
CPU:______AMD FX-8150 8 Core (Stable OC) @ 4.4Ghz - 1.4v
RAM:______32GB G-Skill Trident CL8
GPU:______Galaxy GeForce GTX 680 GC (4GB)
PSU:______Antec Truepower Quattro 1200W
Cooler:____Antec Kuhler H2O 1220
Case:_____Antec 1200 v3
OS HDD:__Corsair Force Series 3 240GB SSD



Edited: 09/14/2013 at 11:26 AM by alan_FX8150
 09/14/2013 02:46 PM
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Ignore the haters who are technically misinformed...

Vishera scales very well and the FX-9000 series delivers the same relative performance vs. increased clockspeed.

There is a nice improvement moving from BD to Vishera. Vishera also OC's better than BD. In fact FX-9590's are just OC'd FX-8350 CPUs that are good enough to have a higher programmed default base clockspeed - as noted by AMD tech support.

As long as you're planning to go to H2O cooling then either of the current FX-9000 series would be a good choice based on your budget and mobo's VRM circuit design. You will need a mobo capable of running the FX-9000 series without issue and that typically means one of the highend Asus or Asrock mobos. Gigabyte just released a FX-9000 capable mobo because their other AM3+ mobos have a weak VRM design for OC'd FX processors.

For those on a limited budget the FX-8350 makes an excellent upgrade as these CPUs can generally be OC'd to 4.6-5.0 GHz. P95 stable with a highend tower style HSF like the Xigmatek Aegir or similar.



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 10/27/2013 11:31 PM
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Mines already running at 223TDP (See screenshot in 1st post above) and mine doesnt go above 45 degree's - although I have an intergrated water cooler (Antec 1220) and a hell of a lot of fans. When I upgrade to watercooling, it'll be even more temperature resistant so I cant complain.The 9370 will allow more headroom over the 8150. Its better than my CPU (which won the guiness book of world records for highest frequency) so an upgrade is an upgrade, either way mate


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