Topic Title: Memory upgrade
Topic Summary: value vs gaming
Created On: 07/21/2012 11:25 AM
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 07/21/2012 11:25 AM
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sebas_xyz
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Hello again ppl 
i actually have 4GB of  kingstone value ram

im thinking on a upgrade 

adding 4GB more of value ram will be good or the great question is...

Buying a kit of 8GB of corsair vengeance really gonna see an improvement of at least 5+ fps in games?

are really a little more fast the gaming series ram because windows experience give 7.5 to the value rams XD

Ty for your comments and experiences

 07/21/2012 12:26 PM
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Assuming you are using a dedicated card instead of an APU, and a modern (AM3/AM3+ or Sandy/Ivy Bridge) CPU and motherboard, and you are using Windows Vista or 7 x64, you could potentially see 5fps improvement. Value RAM is the bottom of the barrel garbage, and with 8GB now around $50, it is a great upgrade.

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 07/21/2012 12:40 PM
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sebas_xyz
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sorry my pc is 

phenom ii x4 965 

gigabyte 880 gma

1TB caviar green

and this week i bought a sapphire 6870 and tx 650  

i was looking the timing on value and vengeance are same 9 9 9 24

so what wich gonna be better ?

the board is for 1333 mhz can i put the 1600 mhz vengeance and it gonna be set to 1333 automatic without troubles right ?

 07/21/2012 12:41 PM
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sebas_xyz
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Originally posted by: black_zion Assuming you are using a dedicated card instead of an APU, and a modern (AM3/AM3+ or Sandy/Ivy Bridge) CPU and motherboard, and you are using Windows Vista or 7 x64, you could potentially see 5fps improvement. Value RAM is the bottom of the barrel garbage, and with 8GB now around $50, it is a great upgrade.

Ty man =D

 07/21/2012 01:32 PM
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OK, first, memory timings are the number of clock cycles.  9-9-9-24 at 1333MHz is slower than 9-9-9-24 at 1600MHz, because it takes the latter a shorter amount of time to go through 9 clock cycles.

Second, you will gain very little going from the Kingston ValueRAM to even the fastest memory available.  If you're lucky, a couple percent increase in frame rate.  So you'd need to be running at over 250fps already to see an increase of 5fps. 

In reality, any game likely to be at all impacted by your memory speed is going to be CPU bound, and that processor will be more of a bottleneck than even the slowest memory you could get working on that motherboard.

So the upshot is, you would get very little return from upgrading just your memory.

 

 07/21/2012 01:42 PM
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yeah unless your running out of  system memory when playing games ( some  new games use more the 4 gigs depending on the game  , and if your rendering (you want all the ram you can get ) , but it depends on  your  rig  , ram  speed  does   verry  little in terms of performance  increase (unless you like to run ram benchmarks lol)



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 07/21/2012 04:31 PM
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On an 880 chipset and 6870, you'd be better off holding off until you do a complete system update to DDR4 (2014 is the outlook for that)

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 07/22/2012 04:57 PM
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The way it is the biggest slowdown on your system is that green Hard Drive. they use what is called intellipower so although the drive max may be 5400 rpm it may drop to 4500 rpm when not in full use they dont really give out the exact specs on intellipowered drives. Get a WD black drive or at least somthing that is ment to game with. The green drives are not even recommended for use as a boot drive.



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 07/22/2012 09:47 PM
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I love caviar green drives as a storage/external drive since they run on lower rpm (and lower voltages aswell if you check the spec sheets) means they are more reliable, run on lower temperatures and less likely to fail. But.. unfortunately they suck as a system drive and can cause a serious bottleneck.



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