Topic Title: BLUE_SCREEN R9 280x (SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION) [SOLVED: GRAPHICCARD IS DEFECT !]
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 06/01/2014 10:15 AM
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Driver 14.6

Another Bluescreen appears today !

Problemsignatur:
  Problemereignisname:    BlueScreen
  Betriebsystemversion:    6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
  Gebietsschema-ID:    1031

Zusatzinformationen zum Problem:
  BCCode:    3b
  BCP1:    00000000C0000005
  BCP2:    FFFFF8800F0B62AC
  BCP3:    FFFFF8800D112950
  BCP4:    0000000000000000
  OS Version:    6_1_7601
  Service Pack:    1_0
  Product:    256_1

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All drivers and firmware are up to date. (Windows, BIOS, and all other drivers or firmware)



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Edited: 06/03/2014 at 06:45 AM by TypeOverride
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How about you remove avast! and see if this was the cause. I recommend Ms security essentials - its much better + its free and doesn't stress the system a lot.

 

Also if that doesn't help remove your current drivers and install fresh ones.

If that doesn't help you sir might have a faulty bank of memory on your gpu.



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Edited: 06/01/2014 at 11:08 AM by ksus
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Originally posted by: ksus How about you remove avast! and see if this was the cause. I recommend Ms security essentials - its much better + its free and doesn't stress the system a lot.

 

 

 

Also if that doesn't help remove your current drivers and install fresh ones.

 

If that doesn't help you sir might have a faulty bank of memory on your gpu.

 

First the graphiccard is new.
Second the supprt told me to Download: Driver Fusion. (Before ive run DDU). But this is for the other Blue Screen i have/had. -> http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=454&threadid=174409&enterthread=y

The Support told me to use Driver Fusion - Free can not fix anything without paying something ! But there was something for AMD removing but without premium he dont want to make it clean of all.

Anyway i used DDU for Driver removable too. I used it before and it doesnt help ... but this was for the other Blue Screen.

So i have to wait again. But i dont think that the Blue Screen will be dissapear.

 



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Edited: 06/01/2014 at 06:17 PM by TypeOverride
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Please read it up again; I've read those 2 posts;

What worried me is the Avast driver with ati driver that caused crash; It could be somehow be it.

But itself this error is happening when something is trying to gain access to memory bank and can't.  There's possiblity you have a faulty memory bank in your card. It happens, it doesn't mean if its new i cannot be broken - it could be always broken.

Screw premium paid software, i hate those kind.



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 06/01/2014 06:46 PM
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I read everything.

The new (latest) Blue Screen with 14.6 driver has todo something with Avast maybe.

What shall i do ? Removing the anti virus programm because AMD is not working with a virus programm in the background ?

You say whats about removing avast and than see if it is gone. Thats a joke or ? First without having a anti-vir in the background i dont use my pc and second how long should i wait ... weeks ? And when it not occurs i shouldnt use anti-vir applications anymore because they are not working with AMD is my new knowledge ?

When you say the memory is defect.... how can i check it ?

I think there is no other way to refund the graphiccard or what do you think ?

I have not the trust that the new graphiccard dont make the same problems.



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Originally posted by: TypeOverride

 

What shall i do ? Removing the anti virus programm because AMD is not working with a virus programm in the background ?

Well, removing Avast regardless of AMD is advisable. Avast is currently the worst AV of all. It's more like a malware itself now. They even managed to become worse than Comodo, and that's a thing!



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 06/01/2014 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by: Eydee
Originally posted by: TypeOverride

 

 

 

What shall i do ? Removing the anti virus programm because AMD is not working with a virus programm in the background ?

 

Well, removing Avast regardless of AMD is advisable. Avast is currently the worst AV of all. It's more like a malware itself now. They even managed to become worse than Comodo, and that's a thing!

 

 

Are you kidding me. I should remove Avast because the ATI Core Driver is making problems ? (i know you said regardless, but anyway)

Before i was going with Avira. I switched to Avast because its better. I dont know you knowledge base of anti-virus application at the moment.

But at the moment you should go Avast.

 



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 06/01/2014 08:42 PM
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http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security-essentials-download

 

Get this. Uninstall those dogdy av's like avast and avira.

This is a recommendation either way. This might not be cause but those av software you're using are garbage, and i wouldn't be suprised it was causing it by locking memory access to your driver kernel.



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 06/01/2014 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by: ksus http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security-essentials-download

 

 

 

Get this. Uninstall those dogdy av's like avast and avira.

 

This is a recommendation either way. This might not be cause but those av software you're using are garbage, and i wouldn't be suprised it was causing it by locking memory access to your driver kernel.

 

http://www.howtogeek.com/173291/goodbye-microsoft-security-essentials-microsoft-now-recommends-you-use-a-third-party-antivirus/

No thanks !

Avast is the way to go ! Maybe i go Avira. But because of a AMD graphiccard i cant use Avast anymore ? Is this a joke ?

So i need a solution not a new graphiccard !



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 06/01/2014 09:31 PM
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Do what You will; Its true MSE didn't pass german certs but comparing it to avast is going far

Avast is a garbage. I know that Germans love it - but they are fools if they think avast is good.

To support my opinion: Corporations, companies in US have been switching for last 2 years now to MS Forfront from Norton AV. Not one had avast.



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Edited: 06/01/2014 at 09:41 PM by ksus
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Originally posted by: ksus Do what You will; Its true MSE didn't pass german certs but comparing it to avast is going far

 

Avast is a garbage. I know that Germans love it - but they are fools if they think avast is good.

 

To support my opinion: Corporations, companies in US have been switching for last 2 years now to MS Forfront from Norton AV. Not one had avast.

 

Please dont make a talk about germans here. No preconception.

Ive heard this the first time that germans always go with Avast. I dont decide on germans preferences. What ever they are. Only for myself.

Im very open for MSE. Can you tell me something about it. I dont find much information about it. I only see that it has bad reputation and is not very good.

But software is changing over the time. What are the benefits. Im close to use it but when its not working propper and i get a virus im more than piss ed ^^

Edit:

The whole web is Avast Pro. So MSE is absolut new to me as Anti-Virus protection. So its was always a question about Avira and Avast ... and the latest tests on different pages say Avast is the way to go.

 

Here:

[url]http://www.av-test.org/de/home/[/url]

they have 25 years experience.

And they say Avast and MSE has not much points.

Avast  90 %
MSE  71%

state februrary

I think i go Avira before i go MSE

 


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Edited: 06/01/2014 at 10:12 PM by TypeOverride
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Ok,

MSE is pretty much one of the best free AV out there. It takes place from your defender. Yes europeans especially germans hate it. Because its american monopoly of microsoft. Thats one of the pretty much reasons why it didn't get cert from germans. Its a great solution.

Try it, see for yourself.



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Originally posted by: ksus Ok,

 

MSE is pretty much one of the best free AV out there. It takes place from your defender. Yes europeans especially germans hate it. Because its american monopoly of microsoft. Thats one of the pretty much reasons why it didn't get cert from germans. Its a great solution.

 

Try it, see for yourself.

 

 

Its this the reason. When the "Independent IT-Security Institute" say no to the Software i dont think it has todo something because its a american monopoly.

German is very open to america. I dont think thats the reason. And im america pro. Yeah they make much environmental pollution and they give a sh it and the americans are very racialistic (hope this is the word), i mean they have a odd view on different countries. Maybe its hollywood.

Anyway, its not about what people think what german like. Its about if the software is working propper. And i cant find evidence in the web that MSE is a sofware that you can trust. And trust is everything on a Anti-Virus application.

I want to say. Give me links please. I have to choose between Anti-Vir or MSE i guess.

But it would be nice when AMD make it compatible to their drivers. But i dont think it will ever be the case because i see threads that are very old and for older drivers. Its a well known problem of AMD + Avast.

I will make a telephone call with my vendor and i think i have to refund it.

He already said to me i should refund it when i came with the first Blue Screen.

"He said when AMD not working AMD is not working." - technical support

I didnt like to hear that from my vendor but he has experienc with AMD i guess. He said when i have trouble with the drivers i should make a refund. He already know what i did to get rid of it. And he is seeing no other solution.

But i dont want Nvidia. I want AMD. This is so fuc king weird. I have the feeling AMD dont want my money.

My brother needs a new graphiccard soon too. And i cant say: Buy AMD. My brother will hurt me ^^, when he has the same problems like me. And he will. Same PC except the graphiccard !



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Edited: 06/01/2014 at 10:33 PM by TypeOverride
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Your problem is with either your card or avast invading amd's kernel driver memory pool. *(Nothing to do with drivers)

 

about good av software = Kaspersky or MSE currently there are no other good av's and one of them is russian which no US company will trust.


Yes big companies like Americaneagle, Intel, Microsoft, and other big corps companies they all use MS Forfront (its same thing as MSE but has more domain deployment options) and yes this independant company is presenting their view of results not real results. Avast is being seen for a long long time as one of the worst AV software ever created like McAffe.

 

MS is updating it and def frequently, and it doesn't tax system like others. Its far better than Norton's previous pick for big companies in US.



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Originally posted by: ksus Your problem is with either your card or avast invading amd's kernel driver memory pool. *(Nothing to do with drivers)

 

 

 

about good av software = Kaspersky or MSE currently there are no other good av's and one of them is russian which no US company will trust.

Yes big companies like Americaneagle, Intel, Microsoft, and other big corps companies they all use MS Forfront (its same thing as MSE but has more domain deployment options) and yes this independant company is presenting their view of results not real results. Avast is being seen for a long long time as one of the worst AV software ever created like McAffe.

 

 

 

MS is updating it and def frequently, and it doesn't tax system like others. Its far better than Norton's previous pick for big companies in US.

 

Hmm i asked for "links". I need more background information until i can say, yeah you are right.

Why you can say that this is not a kernel problem when because of the kernel i get a Blue Screen.

I dont want to say Blue Screens are AMD exclusiv. But with 8 NVidia graphiccards that are running in my view in different systems no one makes a Blue Screen, except they are hardware defect.

I dont guess that my new graphiccard has a defect because i can read those problems everywhere with AMD.

So i would say its a driver problem. Off course its a driver problem.

My system is clean like a baby a ss. I have only good components. And my bios is optimized for my system.

Everything fine, except that AMD is making his own rules on my PC.

I have to get rid of it. I need a solution. And removing the Avast is not a solution. And this is not my first Blue Screen with this new graphiccard in a short time. When i solve this the next one will occurs.

14.4 is making a different Blue Screen -  caused by ATI/AMD core driver.
14.6 is making this Blue Screen -  caused by the ATI/AMD core driver.

And you want to say its not the driver. I dont build up my system around the graphiccard. The graphiccard should fits well into my system. Not the other way around !



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noone has a solution ?



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you have been given numerous things to try on all your many threads and all you do is argue with people,so I doubt you will get much if any help from anyone anymore.



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I get these blue screen regardless of my antivirus, got them twice while browsing on the web, at the same website (and no that website doesnt have any viruses). 

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Originally posted by: stinger1233 I get these blue screen regardless of my antivirus, got them twice while browsing on the web, at the same website (and no that website doesnt have any viruses). 

 

I have BlueScreens too while im watching video in the Browser.

Its a well know Problem. We need a fix !



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OK THE GRAPHICCARD IS DEFECT !

MY VENDOR TOLD ME THAT IT HAS TO 98% A DEFECT. I HAVE TO SEND IT BACK.

IM A LITTLE BIT DISSAPOINTED HERE, BECAUSE IT WAS BRAND NEW !

MY VENDOR TOLD ME, THAT IT DOESNT MATTER IF I CHOOSE NOW NVIDIA OR AMD. BOTH HAVE DEFECTS IN THE SAME WAY.

 

THANKS GUYS FOR ALL YOUR HELP ! I HOPE WE DONT HAVE TO TALK AGAIN WHEN I GET A NEW ONE ^^



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