Topic Title: Wolfenstein: The New Order
Topic Summary: Negative Crossfire Scaling
Created On: 05/21/2014 01:13 PM
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 05/21/2014 01:13 PM
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ThomasW
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First some general system information:

(My system is a laptop, Alienware m18x r1, using the latest A05 BIOS)

GPU: Crossfire Radeon HD 6970m (stock clocks) and the latest 14.4 drivers

CPU: 2920xm (no overclock)

Hard Drive game is installed to: OCZ Agility 3 (480GB)

OS: Windows 7 home premium 64 bit.

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The problem I am having with Wolfenstein: The New Order is that while crossfire is enabled the game runs at a lower frame-rate than a single card. Forced rendering modes such as AFR and some pre-defined profiles I thought it would be worth trying (idTech5, rage, OGLEnableAFR, ect.) all lowered the frame rate significantly and caused extremely noticeable screen flickering until the game environment changed (moving from an interior cell to an exterior, or vice versa). Optimized 1x1 slightly lowered the frame-rate from a single card and caused no flickering.

I am hoping that there is a driver is in the works to utilize multi-gpu setups as I am currently running the game at a much lower setting than I would like to. If any other information is required just ask.

 

 05/21/2014 05:52 PM
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AMD needs to do a better job at reaching out to developers, especially prior to release of a big title. We go out and spend MUCHO dollars on motherboards, power supplies and video cards that meet the "crossfire" specifications, only to be dissapointed.

 05/21/2014 10:10 PM
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Doesnt even need crossfire,this is there requirements to run the game with Ultra settings.

 

The PC system requirements aren't split up into minimum and recommended specs; instead, said Bethesda on its blog, "The system requirements are based on the game being a next-gen experience running at 60 [frames per second]. These are the system requirements to deliver the PC game as it was intended to be experienced."

Here's the gaming rig that the company recommends:

  • 64-bit Windows 7/Windows 8
  • Intel Core i7 or equivalent AMD
  • 4 GB System RAM
  • 50 GB free hard drive space
  • Nvidia GeForce GTX 460, AMD Radeon HD 6850


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 05/21/2014 11:29 PM
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The company recommended settings are to run the game on medium to medium-low settings @60fps, not ultra (on steam the settings you listed are the minimun recommended hardware). It is rather dissapointing to have my second card sitting idle when the game settings could be set much higher. Hopefully this issue gets fixed soon.

 05/22/2014 11:32 PM
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The Link I found this morning mentioned these as running on Ultra settings.

 

 



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Edited: 05/23/2014 at 11:47 AM by Earnhardt
 05/23/2014 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by: shagg AMD needs to do a better job at reaching out to developers, especially prior to release of a big title. We go out and spend MUCHO dollars on motherboards, power supplies and video cards that meet the "crossfire" specifications, only to be dissapointed.

 

Here's a review of the game as of 2 days ago,It mentions This game DOES NOT support crossfire or SLI:

http://www.dsogaming.com/pc-performance-analyses/wolfenstein-the-new-order-pc-performance-analysis/

from steam:

Does the game support SLI or Crossfire dual GPUs?
No. For best performance, it is recommended that you disable these modes. If you to try running in either mode at your own risk and make sure you have installed the latest drivers.

 

http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=7799&game=Wolfenstein:%20The%20New%20Order



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Edited: 05/23/2014 at 08:12 PM by Earnhardt
 05/23/2014 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by: shagg AMD needs to do a better job at reaching out to developers, especially prior to release of a big title. We go out and spend MUCHO dollars on motherboards, power supplies and video cards that meet the "crossfire" specifications, only to be dissapointed.

 

What about the games that are not coded for dual graphics? who will you blame then,Nvidia and AMD still.



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 05/23/2014 09:37 PM
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I fully understand that the game states that it best played on one card, and that is because of the negative scaling. I have benchmarked it thoroughly using a plethora of different crossfire profiles compared to a single card (the best result was the generic optimized 1x1 and even that was worse than a single card). I don't solely blame either id/MachineGames or AMD/Nvidia for not supporting the game yet, it pretty much just came out.


That being said, the idTech5 sort of supports both crossfire and SLI, and my being the owner of an AMD card I would eventually expect AMD to roll out a driver which provides a crossfire profile for the game. The profile doesn't even need to provide that ideal 80-100% scaling of the second card, just as long as I am not getting penalized for owning a second video card.

It should be the job of both the graphics card manufacturer and the game developer to work together ensuring that their customer base is satisfied. Nvidia, for example, has already rolled out a beta driver attempting to support SLI with Wolfenstein (though I don't believe it works) and I would expect AMD to do the same shortly.

 05/23/2014 10:22 PM
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Just because we want to run dual graphics,doesn't means all games will support it now or ever.I have never run crossfire with the expectation of it working on all games.If a game does not support it,It is easy to just disable one card and carry on.I run crossfire only because i can afford it,And so my other card doesn't get lonely.I never use low end cards for it either.

I'm pretty sure Whether or not the game ever officially supports dual graphics or not is solely up to the developer,not AMD or Nvidia.

And yes,Nvidia did release a SLI profile,but it does not work.



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AMD Phenom II 1100t @4.0Ghz /Asus sabertooth 990fx/2x Gigabyte 3G 7950's in crossfire/500G samsung 840 ssd/16G G-Skill Ripjaw 1600/2-samsung 24" monitors 1920X1200/Corsair AX1200W psu/W7 pro 64,G19 keyboard,Roccat kone pure mouse,Cooler master HAF932,Corsair H100i water cooler,Zalman ram cooler.Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion Series,Logitech Z5500 speakers,Roccat Kave 5.1 headset.

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