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 07/03/2014 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by: backFireX64 I should probably text you privately my opinion about ubicrap and it's phenomenal youpay service.......

 

We probably share the same feelings......



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 07/04/2014 01:50 AM
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Originally posted by: backFireX64
most games are optimized for 60fps but can be playable as low as 30fps

 

 

 

Watch_Dogs disagrees ................ he he

 

Says who lol I've played WatchDogs on 1-2 cards and had it get down to near 30 and still be perfectly playable to the point I didn't notice fps was between 30-40 till I looked at the Afterburner readout. 



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 07/04/2014 07:12 AM
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Says the one with the older hardware .......



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Originally posted by: backFireX64 Says the one with the older hardware .......

 

 

I meant who says games aren't playable at or above 30FPS :-P it was joking, but semi serious in Watch_Dogs case, I find myself not noticing when the FPS isn't below 30... once it drops below 30 is when you can actually see the stutter, at least for me... TV OP maybe.



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 07/04/2014 10:10 AM
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I have all kinds of stuttering with that game, vram utilization is extremely high and the same no matter how low settings are, frame dips and microfreezes are random and inconsistent all over the place, playing with the shader option occasionally gives me a random ctd ............. should i go on ?

 

Does this game strike you like an optimized game ?



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 07/04/2014 10:13 AM
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It is one thing to be able to play at 30 fps, and it is another thing entirely if you can actually enjoy it.

And believe me when i say, i do not like to pay money for crappy games or software.



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 07/04/2014 10:18 AM
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There is actually a thread on this forum, on nvidia forums, on ubisoft forums AND on steam forums where you can feel the frustration of people with dual-gpu cards who couldn't even launch the game for weeks after the game was out.

I know.

I was one of them.



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 07/04/2014 11:04 AM
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Wish I could experience and troubleshoot these issues for myself, but like I've posted on NVidia forums, I can only troubleshoot what I can't reproduce so much.  

I had very few issues on this game, other than low FPS because of the card itself, when I was running it on an HD 7970, and that was fixed almost completely by running on Medium/High mixed settings.  Once I got the R9 290Xs and started running in Crossfire, I really didn't have that many issues at all.  The few I did were lessed by the 14.6 Betas, and the patch basically fixed the largest issue I still had, which was the stuttering that happened randomly when driving.

The only issue I still have with Watch_Dogs is, after prolonged play (longer than an hour most of the time) when the game's system RAM usage gets up near 8GB, it starts to stutter, very occasionally, not consistently.  Exiting & reloading the game fixes it.

Things I (and at least 2 other people I know, one of whom is running GTX 780 Ti's in SLi, the other is running lesser AMD-side cards) don't experience that I've seen droves of others complain about: 

1. Stuttering while driving.  IF it happens to me at all, it's once in a blue moon, or a product of the issue I just listed where a reload of the game fixes it.

2. Scaling or stuttering issues in general on dual-GPU solutions I have not experienced at all, at any point during my testing.  Even TriFire runs the game without issues that could be pointed at multi-GPU solutions, the issue with TriFire was visual glitches, which I didn't figure out how to solve before I got rid of what was my 3rd card at the time of testing last.

3. My vRAM usage does change with settings, significantly, so that's another thing I don't see (vRAM usage being the same at any settings)

 

It's frustrating for me cuz I like helpin' people solve issues with games like these, but I can only do so much in the way of troubleshooting when I don't have the same issues myself.  The guy with the 780 Ti's that isn't having issues says the exact same thing, and he's more direct in saying he thinks people have system issues they need to resolve and that it's not JUST the game at fault.

I think it's a combination of further driver optimization AND a LOT more game-engine work being needed, as the issues should not be being had by THIS wide of a group of their users, that points clearly to it being the game taking issue with things randomly & with a wide-gauge when it comes to who it's effecting.

 

I also didn't have the issue of not being able to launch it with a dual graphics solution :-P Didn't even know that issue existed, but I wasn't really troubleshooting the game at that point.  I only came on forums to start checking things out when I noticed what issues I had before updating to the 14.6 Betas.

 

P.S. sorry for wall of text lol



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I love and enjoy reading little novels that i post myself anyway, so thank you for that.

Concerning issues with games, there are tons of hardware combinations and i can imagine that a game cannot run the same on everyone's pc.

The fact that ubi-crap games, which i can't help but play because i like the idea, not necessarily the execution, have lots of issues to a wide amount of gpu hardware, means that the people who buy the game tend to involuntarily and shamefully become quality A. testers for the company.

That is something that shows unprofessionalism, and i despise that.

Because i pay for a final version of a game.

Not alpha.

Not beta.

Certainly not for any "early access " game.

 

Watch_dogs is a game built around consoles in mind and run best on pc on  a powerfull gpu with 3gb vram minimum.

Everything else is on the mercy of amd drivers or future patches, by which point you have already moved on.

Which is a bad sign .......



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 07/04/2014 03:23 PM
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hi guys.

im new here and was wondering if some 1 could help me with Xfire. i have a radeon xfx hd7970 and a msi hd7950 boost. they seem to be running great with no problems good performance boost. now the 7950 is my primary card and my 7970 is my second card. would you consider that the best setup or would you switch. the reason i ask is i would prefer the 7970 to do most of the work as it seems more capable of carrying the heat and the 7950 seems to make some odd cracking sound when cooling back down both will make it up to 75 sometimes 80 degrees. in a game of battlefield. and i have underclocked both to 850mhz from 960 and 940 to help keep temps down. i always worry about heat issues and do have   3 200mm fans 2 140 mm fans and 4 120mm fans in my case so there is always a nice cool breeze flowing through. 

my question is this.

would putting my slower card as primary bring the faster one in par with it or would it just increase voltage so they are both the same .. would swapping the graphics cards around do anything at all to help temps? and would it do anything beneficial?

 07/04/2014 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by: Impact_Wound hi guys.

 

im new here and was wondering if some 1 could help me with Xfire. i have a radeon xfx hd7970 and a msi hd7950 boost. they seem to be running great with no problems good performance boost. now the 7950 is my primary card and my 7970 is my second card. would you consider that the best setup or would you switch. the reason i ask is i would prefer the 7970 to do most of the work as it seems more capable of carrying the heat and the 7950 seems to make some odd cracking sound when cooling back down both will make it up to 75 sometimes 80 degrees. in a game of battlefield. and i have underclocked both to 850mhz from 960 and 940 to help keep temps down. i always worry about heat issues and do have   3 200mm fans 2 140 mm fans and 4 120mm fans in my case so there is always a nice cool breeze flowing through. 

 

my question is this.

 

would putting my slower card as primary bring the faster one in par with it or would it just increase voltage so they are both the same .. would swapping the graphics cards around do anything at all to help temps? and would it do anything beneficial?

 

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