Topic Title: "Package Temperature" Richland APU
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Created On: 11/10/2013 07:16 PM
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 11/10/2013 07:16 PM
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technic58
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Hi guys,

I finally have my new system together and I'm trying to get used to it. Last time I built a PC was on socket 939. Anyway, I have an A8-6500 Richland APU on the Asrock FM2-A88X FM2+ motherboard. Speedfan detects one CPU temperature which is very normal (with the CPU sitting there doing nothing ~33C). HWMonitor from CPUID also detects this temperature, but detects another temperature, the "package temperature."

At this moment, the package temperature is sitting at 52C. However, I've seen it go into the 80s when the CPU is actually under some load. Looking at it now, I see that the maximum the sensor has read so far is 255C, so something is clearly wonky.

I'm just trying to get this CPU folding for an extended period of time, and even though I'm inclined to just ignore this sensor, I wanted to double check with you guys first.

Thanks!

 



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 11/11/2013 11:05 PM
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Package temperature was probably intended to be a kind of average temperature across all cores.  From a user perspective it's meaningless since the polling interval of most monitoring software wouldn't capture any differences between cores anyway, but not having a single diode that could be read to determine CPU temp would have freaked people out.  If it seems like something is getting lost in translation just ignore it, and you'll probably be fine.



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 11/12/2013 05:42 PM
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Thanks for the reply, Mime. Will do. Thanks!



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 11/18/2013 10:03 PM
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I have the A8-6600K and my package temps range from 60-200C, so i just ignore it because those temps are impossible and the APU would die if it were really at 200C, so im guessing its just an error, btw in HWmonitor look for "TMPIN1" thats your cpu temperature for this APU

 11/21/2013 09:40 AM
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Hey Samus, thanks! Good to get some confirmation on the package temp.

As for TMPIN1--I don't have one of those. I do have a TMPIN3 which I wasn't really sure about. It reads pretty average temperatures. However, I also have a CPUTIN which I have been assuming is the one I need to watch. CPUTIN is also the temperature that Speedfan picks up. I'll have to stress it and watch both of those temperatures and see what happens. TMPIN3 usually reads about 10C higher than the CPUTIN, so hopefully that's something else.

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 05/02/2014 10:14 PM
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Wow, this is strange because I have such a similar setup, yet my package temp always seems to be the reasonable value.

I have a ASUS A88X-pro FM2+ board with a A6-6400 APU. Win7. At first I struggled to find any software that would show me any meaningful temp data at all. ASUS's PCProbe and NBProbe would not even install without errors. Speedfan was totally useless as it just showed blanks.  Finally I found HWINFO32 and HWMonitor.  Both of these show a package temp 35-65C. Other temps always seem ridiculous, as in near freezing!

Makes me wonder if there is something awry with this MOBO.  In general, I have to say that the chip and board makers seem to be missing the boat, however, in that there are so many of us out here that want to be watching our CPU temps, yet it is such a struggle to get sensible values.  Overclocking? Sure. Temps? forget it.

 10/22/2014 10:24 PM
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okay i have an H80i double thick double fan water cooler and even i set the fan speed in the bios to fullspeed with them plasting like jet engines it stil lreads 67-71c max laod, really it sohuld be no more than 50c.

 

the back aplte is cool. icna't tell if the temp readings are lying or the pump is bad.

 10/26/2014 06:51 AM
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Hey guys I have the Asrock FM2a88x-ITX+ running with an A10-7850k my package temperatures are also high.

I'm running with a Coolermaster Seidon 120v this grab was taken after the system had been on for 10 minutes or so. The CPUtin reading gets to a max of 39C whilst gaming running the evil within at 900p/high/30fps without a fanspeed increase. The package temperature however jumps up to about 88C

 

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 10/27/2014 10:52 PM
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i nthe end i used my bared hands, all the parts were temp based on other comments ans threads and variousmore comments stating the richlands lack of an atualy temp snesor i concluded them temps i am getting are complete and utter hog wash, bunk, lies, bad info.

 10/29/2014 10:25 AM
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It's always worth using the latest version of a temp applet as they are updated as new CPU/APU models are released. Support for the specific software should also indicate if there are issues with temp readings on specific CPU/APU models.

The link below is the Core Temp forum where this type of info. is available and problems discussed so the software maker can correct problems.

http://www.alcpu.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=63

 



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 11/01/2014 12:43 PM
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I have a A4-7600.  I found that the only temp application that was useful was HWiNFO32 (or 64).  Now that I also have a A8-7600, it works well for that too. In both cases, it only reports a package temp, which seems reasonable to me because I would rather know the overall temp rather than little hot spots within.

I did experience temps as high as 70 deg C  (but typically 40 - 60) with the A4-7600, but later realized that I had not used enough GelID - removing the cooler showed that about 2/3 of the surface was still shiny bare metal and had never touched the grease or the CPU !!! OOPS!  The A8-7600 is staying much cooler - never over 60, typically 40-50.

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