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 11/07/2013 02:50 PM
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i just installed the latest catalyst beta drivers.

i've chosen express installation, because i've never had reason to regret this.

but this time this "tool" raptr came with the driver for my video card.

i was never asked if i wanted this malware.

i was never explained what these malware is or does.

i never had the chance to stop the installation of this malware.

there was no option to cancel the installation, just "continue" or kill the process.

killing the installation process doesnt prevent the installation of this malware after next system reboot.

with this hostile behaviour you wont find a receptive customer in me.

for 10 years i was an excited user of ati video cards, but my next one will be a nvidia because of this

 11/07/2013 03:17 PM
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Yes, you have to do a custom installation and uncheck Raptr or you can do a custom uninstall to remove it.

 

 



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 11/07/2013 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by: SignedUpToComplain i've chosen express installation, because i've never had reason to regret this.

I wonder how many toolbars and search engines you have. Are you a collector? Could you post a screenshot of how your browser looks like?



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 11/07/2013 03:47 PM
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I bet he has several trojans hanging around as well.

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 11/07/2013 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by: SignedUpToComplain i just installed the latest catalyst beta drivers.

 

i've chosen express installation, because i've never had reason to regret this.

 

but this time this "tool" raptr came with the driver for my video card.

 

i was never asked if i wanted this malware.

 

i was never explained what these malware is or does.

 

i never had the chance to stop the installation of this malware.

 

there was no option to cancel the installation, just "continue" or kill the process.

 

killing the installation process doesnt prevent the installation of this malware after next system reboot.

 

with this hostile behaviour you wont find a receptive customer in me.

 

for 10 years i was an excited user of ati video cards, but my next one will be a nvidia because of this

 

 


To answer your question Raptr software is none of the above. It in no way harms your system. Its a gaming Evolved app. 

 The AMD Gaming Evolved application exists to help optimize the graphics/performance for each game supported by the app.

http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/raptr.aspx

Don't buy an Nvidia card either if the software offends you because Nvidia has there version of the software as well "Geforce zone" that does the same thing. 



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Edited: 11/07/2013 at 04:16 PM by Vantharas
 12/18/2013 11:01 PM
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Incorrect because the driver software does not list Raptr at all it only lists AMD Gaming Evolved which is not checkable during install (it claims to be installed and up to date always)

 

As far as custom uninstall that option does not list raptr either (even under the gaming evolved name, you have to uninstall Raptr by name in add-remove programs to get rid of it and even then it only partially removes it)

 12/18/2013 11:06 PM
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Originally posted by: Vantharas
Originally posted by: SignedUpToComplain i just installed the latest catalyst beta drivers.

 

 

 

i've chosen express installation, because i've never had reason to regret this.

 

 

 

but this time this "tool" raptr came with the driver for my video card.

 

 

 

i was never asked if i wanted this malware.

 

 

 

i was never explained what these malware is or does.

 

 

 

i never had the chance to stop the installation of this malware.

 

 

 

there was no option to cancel the installation, just "continue" or kill the process.

 

 

 

killing the installation process doesnt prevent the installation of this malware after next system reboot.

 

 

 

with this hostile behaviour you wont find a receptive customer in me.

 

 

 

for 10 years i was an excited user of ati video cards, but my next one will be a nvidia because of this

 

 

 

 

 

To answer your question Raptr software is none of the above. It in no way harms your system. Its a gaming Evolved app. 

 

 The AMD Gaming Evolved application exists to help optimize the graphics/performance for each game supported by the app.

 

http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/raptr.aspx

 

Don't buy an Nvidia card either if the software offends you because Nvidia has there version of the software as well "Geforce zone" that does the same thing. 

 

You are wrong ... Raptr is adware injection program that is bundled because they are paying AMD to do so.. the fact that it has on its surface the appearance of an "application that does things such as IM" does not change the fact that it is Malware by definition of install type, adware by the fact that it does deliver advertising, and finally spyware as it does collect and send data back to both AMD and raptr..

 

It does not in any way optimize games, profiles, drivers, or anything else (not the gaming evolved variant nor the raptr app you can get from their site) towing the party line to try to contain the backlash directed at this latest driver suite is one thing.. but you should really know what you are talking about before you do so.. rather than shooting off at the mouth on subjects you are ill-prepared to discuss.. 

BTW your also wrong about NVidia Gaming Zone.. as it is 100% optional download not included in the driver software, it is not raptr or any other third party based app, and does not claim to do things that it does not in fact do.

If AMD wants to continue selling graphics cards they are gonna have to learn that drivers != 200+ megabytes of malware on top of the driver install

 12/19/2013 12:06 AM
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It seems AMD has changed the custom install method. There is no way to not install the Rapetor crap....



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 12/19/2013 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by: stumped It seems AMD has changed the custom install method. There is no way to not install the Rapetor crap....

 

1. Extract package

2. Delete components you don't need

3. Run the installer

If that fails, install driver through device manager and use ATT instead of CCC.



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 12/19/2013 12:53 AM
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Originally posted by: Eydee
Originally posted by: stumped It seems AMD has changed the custom install method. There is no way to not install the Rapetor crap....

 

1. Extract package

2. Delete components you don't need

3. Run the installer

If that fails, install driver through device manager and use ATT instead of CCC.

True...but the average Joe coming here to update his drivers does not know that. You shouldn't have to be a geek to do a simple thing like this. When they first started injecting this thing, they had a notice that nobody read stating 'if you use the express method we will install the Rapetor" . Now there is no warning and you can't de-select it in 'custom' install. And I haven't found where the program is on my computer to delete it. If its there.



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 12/19/2013 07:10 AM
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Isn't Average Joe supposed to be using a console?



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Originally posted by: jabbathewocket Incorrect because the driver software does not list Raptr at all it only lists AMD Gaming Evolved which is not checkable during install (it claims to be installed and up to date always)

 

 

 

As far as custom uninstall that option does not list raptr either (even under the gaming evolved name, you have to uninstall Raptr by name in add-remove programs to get rid of it and even then it only partially removes it)

 

This is exactly my experience.

I have no idea why certain posters seem to be so offended by people not wanting some unwanted software on their computer.

If I go out to look for drivers, that's all I'd like installed.

And if something isn't listed as an option, IT SHOULD NOT BE INSTALLED.

PERIOD !

 02/21/2014 12:28 AM
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What heats my chili is the option to install/uninstall can't be unchecked. Doesn't seem to matter though..it proudly tells me it is already installed and doesn't need a update. If anybody finds out where it's installed, please share.



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 02/21/2014 01:54 AM
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I've always been able to uncheck Raptr.

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Originally posted by: black_zion I've always been able to uncheck Raptr.

Well I can't. And it says already installed. Can not find a file for this thing or what process it's running under.



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Originally posted by: jabbathewocket you have to uninstall Raptr by name in add-remove programs to get rid of it and even then it only partially removes it

 

After reading this,found a file(21.6mb),after uninstal. 



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Originally posted by: goodplay
Originally posted by: jabbathewocket you have to uninstall Raptr by name in add-remove programs to get rid of it and even then it only partially removes it

 

 

 

 

After reading this,found a file(21.6mb),after uninstal. 

 

Where did you find the file?

EDIT: Finally found them...there are several instances of Raptr mostly in game files. Found 3 instances in Origin alone.



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Edited: 02/21/2014 at 06:54 PM by stumped
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Found mine in :-LocalDisc(C)>ProgramFiles(x86)>raptr.

Just checked through origin/uplay/steam,nothing there.

Do it all again ?,next driver update(still on 13.11 beta).



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Something else to not un-installed.

Found 2 allowed entries in windows firewall.



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Well, this forum is full of absolute fanboy tools isn't it.

I also wish to express my extreme disatisfaction with the Raptr / Gaming Evolved crapware installed by the latest driver package. Regardless of the numerous douchebags on here bleating on about "oh well you should have done this or you shouldn't have done that blah blah blah" the fact remains this is ***** and I didn't ask for it. Anyone defending it is a tw@.

The easiest way to remove it is with CCleaner. AMD should remove this bollocks from the installer and make it a seperate package users can install IF they wish too.

I very much doubt they will though.

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